From rob@eorbit.net Tue Sep 2 21:05:41 2003 Received: from cluster.smtpout.expedia.com (expedia.expedia.com [207.46.182.249]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8345fPM026633 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 21:05:41 -0700 Received: from [10.48.185.113] ([10.48.185.113]) by cluster.smtpout.expedia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3651); Tue, 2 Sep 2003 21:05:40 -0700 From: rob@eorbit.net To: ams@eorbit.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2003 04:05:40.0576 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3716600:01C371D0] Date: 2 Sep 2003 21:05:40 -0700 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Expedia.com Itinerary for Robert Kaye: Amsterdam, Netherlands X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 04:05:42 -0000 Message: This is a good SLO-LA-AMS flight with American/Northwest/KLM. Travelling on the weekend is always a bit more pricey for those who can take fewer days off. If you can, take a couple more days off and fly tuesdays or thursdays. From: Name: Robert Kaye Email: rob@eorbit.net Below you will find a copy of an itinerary from Expedia.com, sent at the request of Robert Kaye. Click the link below if you would like to create a similar itinerary or repeat this trip. http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=tmpl&itid=76274073&tuid=0FE937D051EC&flag=e -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FLIGHT SUMMARY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not Reserved Expedia.com itinerary name: Amsterdam, Netherlands Expedia.com itinerary number: 17627407361 Round Trip Flight: from San Luis Obispo, CA (SBP) to Amsterdam, Netherlands (AMS-Schiphol) Depart: 22-Nov-03 at 8:55 AM Arrive: 23-Nov-03 at 11:20 AM Depart: San Luis Obispo (SBP), 22-Nov-03 at 8:55 AM Arrive: Los Angeles (LAX), 22-Nov-03 at 10:05 AM Terminal 4 Flight: Northwest 2604, OPERATED BY AMERICAN EAGLE AIRLINES -- AA3004 Aircraft: Saab 340/340B Meal Service: n/a Duration: Not Available Distance: 149 mi (240 km) Economy/Coach Class Depart: Los Angeles (LAX), 22-Nov-03 at 3:50 PM Terminal 2 Arrive: Amsterdam (AMS), 23-Nov-03 at 11:20 AM Flight: Northwest 8602, OPERATED BY KLM ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES -- KL602 Aircraft: Boeing 747 (M) Meal Service: n/a Duration: Not Available Distance: 5559 mi (8946 km) Economy/Coach Class Flight: from Amsterdam, Netherlands (AMS-Schiphol) to San Luis Obispo, CA (SBP) Depart: 30-Nov-03 at 11:20 AM Arrive: 30-Nov-03 at 6:29 PM Depart: Amsterdam (AMS), 30-Nov-03 at 11:20 AM Arrive: Los Angeles (LAX), 30-Nov-03 at 1:35 PM Terminal 2 Flight: Northwest 8601, OPERATED BY KLM ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES -- KL601 Aircraft: Boeing 747 (M) Meal Service: n/a Duration: Not Available Distance: 5559 mi (8946 km) Economy/Coach Class Depart: Los Angeles (LAX), 30-Nov-03 at 5:30 PM Terminal 4 Arrive: San Luis Obispo (SBP), 30-Nov-03 at 6:29 PM Flight: Northwest 2605, OPERATED BY AMERICAN EAGLE AIRLINES -- AA3005 Aircraft: Saab 340/340B Meal Service: n/a Duration: Not Available Distance: 149 mi (240 km) Economy/Coach Class -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COST SUMMARY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 adult $634.00 Taxes: $81.56 Service Fees: $5.00 Total Cost: $720.56 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR FLIGHT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Airlines require government-issued photo identification upon check in, such as a drivers license or passport. 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From rob@eorbit.net Mon Sep 8 11:30:17 2003 Received: from eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h88IUFPM032178 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:30:16 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:30:16 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Robert Kaye To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <7E156AC2-E22A-11D7-BF97-000393D13E9E@eorbit.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] One apartment to check out X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 18:30:17 -0000 I've been checking out apartments in A'dam and this one has been looking good: http://amsterdam-apartment.com/amsterdam_apartments_kattengat.htm The quote I got for an apartment for 4 people is 178 Euro. This is with bathroom (shower and WC) in the room in a really good location. Its still unclear if there are two seperate rooms in the apartment or if all the people need to sleep in one big room. I'll pass on more info as I get it. The apartments at Monnikenstraat are also interesting: http://amsterdam-apartment.com/amsterdam_apartments_monnikenstraat.htm The Euro currently stands at 1.109 Dollars to 1 Euro. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Mon Sep 8 11:55:02 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h88It2PM000580 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:55:02 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <64886.206.159.99.37.1063047302.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <7E156AC2-E22A-11D7-BF97-000393D13E9E@eorbit.net> References: <7E156AC2-E22A-11D7-BF97-000393D13E9E@eorbit.net> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] One apartment to check out From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 18:55:02 -0000 Robert Kaye said: > I've been checking out apartments in A'dam and this one has been > looking good: > > http://amsterdam-apartment.com/amsterdam_apartments_kattengat.htm > > The quote I got for an apartment for 4 people is 178 Euro. This is with > bathroom (shower and WC) in the room in a really good location. Its > still unclear if there are two seperate rooms in the apartment or if > all the people need to sleep in one big room. Sleeping in one big room is fine with me, although I can see how that might be inconvenient for some. Did they tell you there would be facilities in the apartment? The site says, "Guests can use the hotel?s facilities." Generally, I'm not going to be very picky about accommodations. I'll trust the judgement of those who have been before. I know to expect accomodations to be closer to a hostel than a US hotel, at least in some respects. Other than trying to keep costs reasonable, I can't think of any requirements I have, so if others have certain preferences I'm not likely to object. Thanks, Rob, for researching. Zannie -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From rob@eorbit.net Mon Sep 8 12:21:07 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h88JL2PN001631 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:21:05 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] One apartment to check out From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <64886.206.159.99.37.1063047302.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <7E156AC2-E22A-11D7-BF97-000393D13E9E@eorbit.net> <64886.206.159.99.37.1063047302.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1063048859.11146.5.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 Date: 08 Sep 2003 12:21:00 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 19:21:08 -0000 On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 11:55, Zannie wrote: > Sleeping in one big room is fine with me, although I can see how that > might be inconvenient for some. We've determined that sleeping in one large room is less than optimal. :-) I'm trying to get a place where two people share one room. > Did they tell you there would be facilities in the apartment? The site > says, "Guests can use the hotel?s facilities." That's what threw me off about the wc and shower in the first place. I'm not exactly sure what that means. I'm sure it won't be a weightroom, pool or hot tub that is for sure. :-) > Generally, I'm not going to be very picky about accommodations. Yup. Afterall we don't plan on spending too much time there. :-) -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From rob@eorbit.net Mon Sep 8 15:51:25 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h88MpFPN010710 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 15:51:24 -0700 From: Robert Kaye To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1063061471.11892.18.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 Date: 08 Sep 2003 15:51:13 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Made my ticket reservation X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 22:51:26 -0000 hi kids! I just made my reservation for Amsterdam -- I'll be flying out early and coming back later, and I used my frequent flyer miles for this ticket, so I had to book now. This is timed so that we all approximately arrive in A'dam about the same time. I may be a couple of hours later than you guys, but Jean knows all the ropes on how to get into the city -- not like its a difficulty in any case. Here is my itinerary for your reference: Nov 18: SBP 6585 1:50pm (United) SFO 2:45pm SFO 954 6:15pm LHR 12:40pm Nov 23: LHR 105 10:45am (BMI) AMS 1:00pm Dec 4: AMS 947 12:30pm DUL 3:05pm DUL 947 5:45pm LAX 8:05pm LAX 6234 10:30pm SBP 11:27pm All flights are on United, except for the LHR -> AMS leg, which is on British Midland. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From rob@eorbit.net Mon Sep 8 15:57:29 2003 Received: from cluster.smtpout.expedia.com (expedia.expedia.com [207.46.182.249]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h88MvPPM010954 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 15:57:28 -0700 Received: from [10.48.185.113] ([10.48.185.113]) by cluster.smtpout.expedia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3651); Mon, 8 Sep 2003 15:57:22 -0700 From: rob@eorbit.net To: ams@eorbit.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2003 22:57:22.0914 (UTC) FILETIME=[9074AC20:01C3765C] Date: 8 Sep 2003 15:57:22 -0700 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Expedia.com Itinerary for Robert Kaye: Amsterdam, Netherlands X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 22:57:30 -0000 Message: United if offering a flight for $715, but it has three stops on the outbound. Unless you have issues with KLM or would really prefer to fly United, I'd recommend going with the Northwest/KLM route. From: Name: Robert Kaye Email: rob@eorbit.net Below you will find a copy of an itinerary from Expedia.com, sent at the request of Robert Kaye. Click the link below if you would like to create a similar itinerary or repeat this trip. http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=tmpl&itid=76714800&tuid=D7FC58F38689&flag=e -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FLIGHT SUMMARY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not Reserved Expedia.com itinerary name: Amsterdam, Netherlands Expedia.com itinerary number: 17671480007 Round Trip Flight: from San Luis Obispo, CA (SBP) to Amsterdam, Netherlands (AMS-Schiphol) Depart: 22-Nov-03 at 7:00 AM Arrive: 23-Nov-03 at 9:10 AM Depart: San Luis Obispo (SBP), 22-Nov-03 at 7:00 AM Arrive: San Francisco (SFO), 22-Nov-03 at 8:01 AM Terminal 3 Flight: United Airlines 6582, OPERATED BY UNITED EXPRESS/SKYWEST Aircraft: EMB-120 Meal Service: n/a Duration: Not Available Distance: 192 mi (309 km) Economy/Coach Class Depart: San Francisco (SFO), 22-Nov-03 at 8:50 AM Terminal 3 Arrive: Denver (DEN), 22-Nov-03 at 12:26 PM Flight: United Airlines 1208 Aircraft: Boeing 757 Meal Service: n/a Duration: Not Available Distance: 954 mi (1535 km) Economy/Coach Class Depart: Denver (DEN), 22-Nov-03 at 1:35 PM Arrive: Chicago (ORD), 22-Nov-03 at 4:55 PM Terminal 1 Flight: United Airlines 966 Aircraft: Boeing 767-300 Meal Service: n/a Duration: Not Available Distance: Not Available Economy/Coach Class Depart: Chicago (ORD), 22-Nov-03 at 5:55 PM Terminal 1 Arrive: Amsterdam (AMS), 23-Nov-03 at 9:10 AM Flight: United Airlines 966 Aircraft: Boeing 767-300 Meal Service: Dinner Duration: Not Available Distance: Not Available Economy/Coach Class Flight: from Amsterdam, Netherlands (AMS-Schiphol) to San Luis Obispo, CA (SBP) Depart: 30-Nov-03 at 12:30 PM Arrive: 30-Nov-03 at 11:27 PM Depart: Amsterdam (AMS), 30-Nov-03 at 12:30 PM Arrive: Washington DC (IAD), 30-Nov-03 at 3:05 PM Flight: United Airlines 947 Aircraft: Boeing 777 Meal Service: Lunch Duration: Not Available Distance: Not Available Economy/Coach Class Depart: Washington DC (IAD), 30-Nov-03 at 5:45 PM Arrive: Los Angeles (LAX), 30-Nov-03 at 8:05 PM Terminal 6 Flight: United Airlines 947 Aircraft: Boeing 777 Meal Service: Dinner Duration: Not Available Distance: Not Available Economy/Coach Class Depart: Los Angeles (LAX), 30-Nov-03 at 10:30 PM Terminal 7 Arrive: San Luis Obispo (SBP), 30-Nov-03 at 11:27 PM Flight: United Airlines 6234, OPERATED BY UNITED EXPRESS/SKYWEST Aircraft: EMB-120 Meal Service: n/a Duration: Not Available Distance: 149 mi (240 km) Economy/Coach Class -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COST SUMMARY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 adult $624.00 Taxes: $86.28 Service Fees: $5.00 Total Cost: $715.28 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR FLIGHT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Airlines require government-issued photo identification upon check in, such as a drivers license or passport. For questions concerning this requirement please contact the airline. Questions about your E-Ticket? Read our frequently asked question http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=hgen&hfnm=h_FW_etix.htx Please read important information governing Airline Liability Limitations: http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=hgen&hfnm=warsaw.htx TIP: Flight terminals may change. Please confirm the terminal with the airline before leaving for the airport. Ticket must be purchased by 11-Sep-03. Ticket changes may incur penalties and/or increased fares. Tickets are non-transferable. Other penalties may apply. 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From zannie@eorbit.net Mon Sep 8 16:30:36 2003 Received: from cluster.smtpout.expedia.com (expedia.expedia.com [207.46.182.249]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h88NUUPM011892 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 16:30:34 -0700 Received: from [10.48.185.115] ([10.48.185.115]) by cluster.smtpout.expedia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3651); Mon, 8 Sep 2003 16:30:29 -0700 From: zannie@eorbit.net To: ams@eorbit.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2003 23:30:29.0711 (UTC) FILETIME=[30ADD5F0:01C37661] Date: 8 Sep 2003 16:30:29 -0700 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Expedia.com Itinerary for zannie@eorbit.net: Amsterdam, Netherlands X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 23:30:37 -0000 Message: This is an itinerary for leaving San Francisco on Saturday, Nov 22 and arriving in San Francisco on Sunday, Nov 30. It assumes the ability to park somewhere in the Bay Area and BART or arrange for other transport to the airport. I'm not sure what all the options are here, but I'm sure there are several. I'm considering this itinerary; if others are looking for something like this, let me know. Maybe we can carpool to SF. (Leaving from SF saves about $80 over leaving from SLO.) From: Email: zannie@eorbit.net Below you will find a copy of an itinerary from Expedia.com, sent at the request of zannie@eorbit.net. Click the link below if you would like to create a similar itinerary or repeat this trip. http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=tmpl&itid=76717399&tuid=A85CB9C86C3D&flag=e -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FLIGHT SUMMARY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not Reserved Expedia.com itinerary name: Amsterdam, Netherlands Expedia.com itinerary number: 17671739966 Round Trip Flight: from San Francisco, CA (SFO-San Francisco Intl.) to Amsterdam, Netherlands (AMS-Schiphol) Depart: 22-Nov-03 at 8:45 AM Arrive: 23-Nov-03 at 7:30 AM Depart: San Francisco (SFO), 22-Nov-03 at 8:45 AM Terminal 3 Arrive: Washington DC (IAD), 22-Nov-03 at 4:47 PM Flight: United Airlines 186 Aircraft: Boeing 767-300 Meal Service: Breakfast Duration: Not Available Distance: 2426 mi (3904 km) Economy/Coach Class Depart: Washington DC (IAD), 22-Nov-03 at 6:15 PM Arrive: Amsterdam (AMS), 23-Nov-03 at 7:30 AM Flight: United Airlines 946 Aircraft: Boeing 777 Meal Service: Dinner Duration: Not Available Distance: 3852 mi (6199 km) Economy/Coach Class Flight: from Amsterdam, Netherlands (AMS-Schiphol) to San Francisco, CA (SFO-San Francisco Intl.) Depart: 30-Nov-03 at 11:00 AM Arrive: 30-Nov-03 at 5:35 PM Depart: Amsterdam (AMS), 30-Nov-03 at 11:00 AM Arrive: Chicago (ORD), 30-Nov-03 at 1:20 PM Terminal 5 Flight: United Airlines 967 Aircraft: Boeing 767-300 Meal Service: Lunch Duration: Not Available Distance: 4109 mi (6613 km) Economy/Coach Class Depart: Chicago (ORD), 30-Nov-03 at 3:00 PM Terminal 1 Arrive: San Francisco (SFO), 30-Nov-03 at 5:35 PM Terminal 3 Flight: United Airlines 149 Aircraft: Boeing 777 Meal Service: Lunch Duration: Not Available Distance: 1851 mi (2979 km) Economy/Coach Class -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COST SUMMARY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 adult $573.00 Taxes: $81.78 Service Fees: $5.00 Total Cost: $659.78 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR FLIGHT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Airlines require government-issued photo identification upon check in, such as a drivers license or passport. 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From rob@eorbit.net Mon Sep 8 16:42:04 2003 Received: from boobs.eorbit.net (boobs.eorbit.net [10.200.2.70]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h88Ng4PN012213 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 16:42:04 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Expedia.com Itinerary for zannie@eorbit.net: Amsterdam, Netherlands From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1063064524.7043.6.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 Date: 08 Sep 2003 16:42:04 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 23:42:05 -0000 Thanks for jumping in on this Zannie! On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 16:30, zannie@eorbit.net wrote: > Message: > This is an itinerary for leaving San Francisco on Saturday, > Nov 22 and arriving in San Francisco on Sunday, Nov 30. Mike may want to consider joining this flight as well, since he is already up in the bay area. > It assumes the ability to park somewhere in the Bay Area and > BART or arrange for other transport to the airport. I'm not > sure what all the options are here, but I'm sure there > are several. Kevin has offered me this service -- he lives in Milbrae, about 5 minutes from BART which goes directly to SFO. This also works well since there will be no traffic leaving the bay area, since its sunday. > I'm considering this itinerary; if others are looking for > something like this, let me know. Maybe we can carpool to SF. > (Leaving from SF saves about $80 over leaving from SLO.) I've done this a number of times, and each time I've sworn I'd never do it again. Once you arrive from Europe you're tired -- real tired. Your day will have already been 24+ hours long and the last thing you want to do is drive for 3.5 hours. My pain threshold for doing this lies around $200. If the ticket is $200 cheaper I will drive to SF. But for $80, I would not do that, considering that if you do it by yourself, gas will be close to $30. $50 is cheap to save the drive from SFO to SLO, especially if you're not awake. :-) YMMV. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Mon Sep 8 17:04:26 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h8904PPM012931 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 17:04:25 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 17:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <62097.206.159.99.37.1063065865.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1063064524.7043.6.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> References: <1063064524.7043.6.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 17:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Expedia.com Itinerary for zannie@eorbit.net: Amsterdam, Netherlands From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 00:04:30 -0000 Robert Kaye said: > I've done this a number of times, and each time I've sworn > I'd never do it again. Once you arrive from Europe you're tired -- real > tired. Your day will have already been 24+ hours long and the last thing > you want to do is drive for 3.5 hours. I've thought of this. But if, say, three of us decide to do it, we can split up the driving and have only about an hour's worth each behind the wheel. Still have to be in the car, but might not be quite so bad. And the gas cost is reduced that way as well. It costs me about $40 in gas to get to and from SF, so in our theoretical three person scenario that's less than $15 each, plus BART, so say $20 each (I'm guessing--haven't taken BART since about 1982, at which point I certainly wasn't buying tickets). Still don't know if it's worth it. Which is one reason I posted it; to get feedback. I'll poke around a bit more; preliminary investigation shows that the same dates of travel from SLO run $720. I haven't investigated LA, primarily because I hate LA. Zannie PS: Dan is most likely not checking his email. In person discussion may be necessary. :) I'll relate what I can, but I'm a newbie for this stuff. -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From zannie@eorbit.net Mon Sep 8 17:04:35 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h8904YPM012956 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 17:04:34 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 17:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <62107.206.159.99.37.1063065874.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 17:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Expedia.com Itinerary for zannie@eorbit.net: Amsterdam, Netherlands From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 00:04:35 -0000 Robert Kaye said: > I've done this a number of times, and each time I've sworn > I'd never do it again. Once you arrive from Europe you're tired -- real > tired. Your day will have already been 24+ hours long and the last thing > you want to do is drive for 3.5 hours. I've thought of this. But if, say, three of us decide to do it, we can split up the driving and have only about an hour's worth each behind the wheel. Still have to be in the car, but might not be quite so bad. And the gas cost is reduced that way as well. It costs me about $40 in gas to get to and from SF, so in our theoretical three person scenario that's less than $15 each, plus BART, so say $20 each (I'm guessing--haven't taken BART since about 1982, at which point I certainly wasn't buying tickets). Still don't know if it's worth it. Which is one reason I posted it; to get feedback. I'll poke around a bit more; preliminary investigation shows that the same dates of travel from SLO run $720. I haven't investigated LA, primarily because I hate LA. Zannie PS: Dan is most likely not checking his email. In person discussion may be necessary. :) I'll relate what I can, but I'm a newbie for this stuff. -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From zannie@eorbit.net Mon Sep 8 18:00:28 2003 Received: from cluster.smtpout.expedia.com (expedia.expedia.com [207.46.182.249]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8910PPM014878 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 18:00:27 -0700 Received: from [10.48.185.136] ([10.48.185.136]) by cluster.smtpout.expedia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3651); Mon, 8 Sep 2003 18:00:24 -0700 From: zannie@eorbit.net To: ams@eorbit.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Sep 2003 01:00:24.0713 (UTC) FILETIME=[C059CF90:01C3766D] Date: 8 Sep 2003 18:00:24 -0700 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Expedia.com Itinerary for zannie@eorbit.net: Amsterdam, Netherlands X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 01:00:29 -0000 Message: Same travel dates (Saturday - Sunday) but from SLO. The convenience is probably worth the $80. A couple of flights showed up for $715, but they both hit SLO at 11:30pm on the return. I figure that by then I'll be willing to pay $5 for a decent night's sleep in my own bed. From: Email: zannie@eorbit.net Below you will find a copy of an itinerary from Expedia.com, sent at the request of zannie@eorbit.net. 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From rob@eorbit.net Tue Sep 9 12:19:38 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h89JJXPN017590 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 12:19:37 -0700 From: Robert Kaye To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1063135169.31383.3.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 12:19:30 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] [Fwd: RE: Euracom Amsterdam Apartment Enquiry] X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 19:19:38 -0000 Here is the official answer on the rooms/bed question. She still didn't fully answer my question though. Can we push the two single beds into one bigger bed? I think so, that's typical over there. -----Forwarded Message----- From: Nicky To: 'Robert Kaye' Subject: RE: Euracom Amsterdam Apartment Enquiry Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 12:44:06 +0100 Thanks for the email. The apartment would normally comprise of 2 bedrooms with a queen sized bed in one and 2 single beds in the other. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Kaye [mailto:rob@eorbit.net] Sent: 08 September 2003 19:19 To: Nicky Subject: RE: Euracom Amsterdam Apartment Enquiry On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 02:37, Nicky wrote: > Yes it does...............if you now wish to book then please let us have > credit card details. Excellent -- we're not a the point where we can book yet. But once everyone's plans settle down I'll contact you with a reservation. And one last question: this apartment for 4 people, are all four people in the same room or are there sub rooms? And the beds are the typical single beds that can be pushed together, right? -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From rob@eorbit.net Tue Sep 9 14:01:53 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h89L1nPN022214 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 14:01:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Expedia.com Itinerary for zannie@eorbit.net: Amsterdam, Netherlands From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <62107.206.159.99.37.1063065874.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <62107.206.159.99.37.1063065874.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1063141304.31383.32.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 14:01:45 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 21:01:58 -0000 On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 17:04, Zannie wrote: > I haven't investigated LA, primarily because I hate LA. Heheehhe. Me too, but there is one case where LA is preferrable over SFO: stopovers. If you're flying out of SLO with United you sometimes have the choice of going via LAX or via SFO. I will always pick LAX, since the weather in LAX is a lot more predictable than SFO. LAX has much less of a chance of fog than SFO does -- especially in November. I've sat in the SLO airport a number of times delayed for my SFO bound flight due to bad weather and the LAX flights just keep rolling in and taking off like clockwork -- its frustrating. But, when it comes to driving and parking, I'm with you -- SFO every time. > PS: Dan is most likely not checking his email. In person discussion may > be necessary. :) I'll relate what I can, but I'm a newbie for this > stuff. Ok, I'll go and bug him about it later tonight... -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From rob@eorbit.net Tue Sep 9 14:03:50 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h89L3mPN022343 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 14:03:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Expedia.com Itinerary for zannie@eorbit.net: Amsterdam, Netherlands From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1063141424.31383.35.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 14:03:44 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 21:03:50 -0000 On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 18:00, zannie@eorbit.net wrote: > Message: > Same travel dates (Saturday - Sunday) but from SLO. The convenience is probably worth the $80. > > A couple of flights showed up for $715, but they both hit SLO at 11:30pm on the return. I figure that by then I'll be willing to pay $5 for a decent night's sleep in my own bed. I would recommend this flight to most of you. Its American to LAX and then KLM to A'dam with no stops anywhere. Its about as painless as possible to A'dam. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Tue Sep 9 14:12:43 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h89LCgPM022723 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 14:12:42 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 14:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <64810.206.159.99.37.1063141962.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1063141424.31383.35.camel@cranky> References: <1063141424.31383.35.camel@cranky> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 14:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Expedia.com Itinerary for zannie@eorbit.net: Amsterdam, Netherlands From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 21:12:43 -0000 Robert Kaye said: > I would recommend this flight to most of you. Its American to LAX and > then KLM to A'dam with no stops anywhere. Its about as painless as > possible to A'dam. I'll probably be buying this one. To keep the price it must be purchased by the 11th (Thursday). If anyone would like me to send the itinerary again, let me know and I'll send it off-list. Zannie -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From rob@eorbit.net Tue Sep 9 14:20:35 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h89LKYPN023040 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 14:20:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Expedia.com Itinerary for zannie@eorbit.net: Amsterdam, Netherlands From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <64810.206.159.99.37.1063141962.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <1063141424.31383.35.camel@cranky> <64810.206.159.99.37.1063141962.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1063142430.31371.45.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 14:20:30 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 21:20:35 -0000 On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 14:12, Zannie wrote: > Robert Kaye said: > > I would recommend this flight to most of you. Its American to LAX and > > then KLM to A'dam with no stops anywhere. Its about as painless as > > possible to A'dam. > > I'll probably be buying this one. To keep the price it must be purchased > by the 11th (Thursday). I would hold off a little bit yet. I've seen prices drop a bit towards the end of september and sometimes fall sales come along in October. I've got screwed once and bought a ticket that I could've saved $150 in the fare sale that started 3 days later. I just checked airlineconsolidator.com because they show how many tickets they have available for a given segment. An airline consolidator purchaes entire blocks of seats on a plane to get a discount on the tickets. And these discounts are partially passed on to the customers. Their tickets are showing up a bit more expensive at the moment (which is weird), but they still have all 9 seats available. (They seem to purchase blocks of 9 tickets at a time.) This gives me the impression that the planes are not getting booked up yet. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Wed Sep 10 12:49:46 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h8AJnkPM028199 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:49:46 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <64670.206.159.99.37.1063223386.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1063142430.31371.45.camel@cranky> References: <1063141424.31383.35.camel@cranky> <64810.206.159.99.37.1063141962.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1063142430.31371.45.camel@cranky> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:49:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Re: When to buy X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:49:48 -0000 Robert Kaye said: > On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 14:12, Zannie wrote: > I would hold off a little bit yet. I've seen prices drop a bit towards > the end of september and sometimes fall sales come along in October. > I've got screwed once and bought a ticket that I could've saved $150 in > the fare sale that started 3 days later. I have a feeling this is a little like the stock market. The price for that itinerary is now $792, not $720. -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From rob@eorbit.net Wed Sep 10 13:17:48 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8AKHlPN029651 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:17:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Re: When to buy From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <64670.206.159.99.37.1063223386.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <1063141424.31383.35.camel@cranky> <64810.206.159.99.37.1063141962.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1063142430.31371.45.camel@cranky> <64670.206.159.99.37.1063223386.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1063225061.19334.31.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:17:42 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 20:17:48 -0000 On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 12:49, Zannie wrote: > Robert Kaye said: > > On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 14:12, Zannie wrote: > > I would hold off a little bit yet. I've seen prices drop a bit towards > > the end of september and sometimes fall sales come along in October. > > I've got screwed once and bought a ticket that I could've saved $150 in > > the fare sale that started 3 days later. > > I have a feeling this is a little like the stock market. The price for > that itinerary is now $792, not $720. Very much so. Check back 20 minutes later and it might be $700. Or $900. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Thu Sep 11 12:53:21 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h8BJrKnZ027293 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:53:20 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <63067.206.159.99.37.1063310000.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:53:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Wait until October? X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:53:21 -0000 Courtesy of Russ: "For decades, the airlines have offered their best prices for the late fall and winter not in August, but during the autumn months, usually starting in October." http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/08/31/TR233001.DTL -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From rob@eorbit.net Thu Sep 11 15:26:05 2003 Received: from eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8BMQ4nZ031081 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:26:04 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:24:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Wait until October? Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <63067.206.159.99.37.1063310000.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:26:05 -0000 On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 12:53 PM, Zannie wrote: > Courtesy of Russ: > > "For decades, the airlines have offered their best prices for the late > fall and winter not in August, but during the autumn months, usually > starting in October." > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/ > 2003/08/31/TR233001.DTL Yup, I don't disagree with that. And two years ago Scott and Hope got good prices even two weeks prior to departure... > -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Thu Sep 11 15:31:10 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h8BMVAnZ031235 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:31:10 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <63148.206.159.99.37.1063319470.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: References: <63067.206.159.99.37.1063310000.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Wait until October? From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:31:11 -0000 Robert Kaye said: > Yup, I don't disagree with that. And two years ago Scott and Hope got > good prices even two weeks prior to departure... Two years ago was just a little after Sept 11, 2001. I'm not saying good prices can't be had at that time (I really don't know) but I'm sure in November of 2001 it was pretty easy to get cheap tickets *anywhere*. Zannie -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From rob@eorbit.net Thu Sep 11 15:36:17 2003 Received: from eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8BMaGnZ031444 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:36:16 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:34:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Wait until October? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <63148.206.159.99.37.1063319470.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Message-Id: <1B833B54-E4A8-11D7-841E-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:36:17 -0000 On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 03:31 PM, Zannie wrote: > Robert Kaye said: >> Yup, I don't disagree with that. And two years ago Scott and Hope got >> good prices even two weeks prior to departure... > > Two years ago was just a little after Sept 11, 2001. > > I'm not saying good prices can't be had at that time (I really don't > know) > but I'm sure in November of 2001 it was pretty easy to get cheap > tickets > *anywhere*. Not as easy as you'd imagine -- they cancelled TONS of flights and that drastically cut down on choices and also kept the prices from totally plunging through the floor. 9/11 notwithstanding, I've seen cheap prices for tickets before leaving for AMS last year too. > -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Fri Sep 19 09:48:04 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h8JGm4TC010981; Fri, 19 Sep 2003 09:48:04 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Fri, 19 Sep 2003 09:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <62194.206.159.99.37.1063990084.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 09:48:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "Zannie" To: fi@gofigo.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:01:36 -0700 Subject: [ams] Europe (Amsterdam) X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 16:48:05 -0000 Hey Fi, This is my real email address, by the way. :) I'll be in Amsterdam from November 23 to November 30. My friends and I will either be staying in a hotel or renting an apartment for the week, but either way we will unfortunately probably not be able to provide you with accomodations. If you're planning on being there at the same time we are, let me know and I'll keep you up to date on our plans... although we may not make solid plans for a little while yet. (The dates are set, though.) If it works out well, we might be able to include you in an apartment rental, but I'll need to check with my friends on that--they may not be comfortable sharing an apartment with a perfect stranger. :) If nothing else, we'll have to get together at a coffee shop or something. I must say, I'm jealous... I want to get laid off so I can be an unemployed bum. Maybe I can work on that after I get my car paid off. :) By the way, you might want to look into unemployment sooner rather than later--how much they give you is based on how much you've made in the last year, or something like that, so you want to apply while that number is high, rather than zero. Good luck, and enjoy Germany and the rest of wherever you go! Zannie -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From zannie@eorbit.net Thu Oct 2 13:44:01 2003 Received: from cluster.smtpout.expedia.com (expedia.expedia.com [207.46.182.249]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92Ki0TC005348 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:44:00 -0700 Received: from [10.48.184.207] ([10.48.184.207]) by cluster.smtpout.expedia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3651); Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:43:57 -0700 From: zannie@eorbit.net To: ams@eorbit.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2003 20:43:57.0806 (UTC) FILETIME=[E6F420E0:01C38925] Date: 2 Oct 2003 13:43:57 -0700 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Expedia.com Itinerary for zannie@eorbit.net: Amsterdam, Netherlands X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 20:44:02 -0000
 
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Lowest out of SLO looks to be around $750 right now.
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Flight:  San Francisco to Amsterdam
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Cost and traveler summary
1 Adult $444.00
Taxes $122.63
Booking Fees $5.00
Total $571.63
Flight summary
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Sat 22-Nov-03
San Francisco (SFO)
Depart 4:25 pm
Terminal I 		 to  London (LHR)
Arrive 10:55 am +1 day
Terminal 4
5358 mi (8623 km)
Duration: 10hr 30mn 
British Airways
Flight: 284
Economy/Coach Class, Meal, Boeing 747-400
London (LHR)
Depart 1:30 pm
Terminal 4 		 to  Amsterdam (AMS)
Arrive 3:40 pm
217 mi (349 km)
Duration: 1hr 10mn 
British Airways
Flight: 438
Economy/Coach Class, Snack, Airbus A319
Total miles: 5575 mi (8972 km)
 Total duration: 11hr 40mn (14hr 15mn with connections)
Sun 30-Nov-03
Amsterdam (AMS)
Depart 11:20 am 		 to  London (LHR)
Arrive 11:30 am
Terminal 4
217 mi (349 km)
Duration: 1hr 10mn 
British Airways
Flight: 427
Economy/Coach Class, Snack, Airbus A319
London (LHR)
Depart 1:30 pm
Terminal 4 		 to  San Francisco (SFO)
Arrive 4:45 pm
Terminal I
5358 mi (8623 km)
Duration: 11hr 15mn 
British Airways
Flight: 287
Economy/Coach Class, Meal, Boeing 747-400
Total miles: 5575 mi (8972 km)
 Total duration: 12hr 25mn (14hr 25mn with connections)
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    From rob@eorbit.net Thu Oct 2 13:45:11 2003 Received: from cluster.smtpout.expedia.com (expedia.expedia.com [207.46.182.249]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92KjATC005432 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:45:10 -0700 Received: from [10.48.184.204] ([10.48.184.204]) by cluster.smtpout.expedia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3651); Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:44:41 -0700 From: rob@eorbit.net To: ams@eorbit.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2003 20:44:41.0681 (UTC) FILETIME=[011AEC10:01C38926] Date: 2 Oct 2003 13:44:41 -0700 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Expedia.com Itinerary for Robert Kaye: Amsterdam, Netherlands X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 20:45:12 -0000 Message: Its time to start thinking about tickets. Seems like they have gone up and not down. The cheapest from SLO seems to be $750 now. From: Name: Robert Kaye Email: rob@eorbit.net Below you will find a copy of an itinerary from Expedia.com, sent at the request of Robert Kaye. Click the link below if you would like to create a similar itinerary or repeat this trip. http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=tmpl&itid=78627163&tuid=565E43E9F936&flag=e -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FLIGHT SUMMARY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not Reserved Expedia.com itinerary name: Amsterdam, Netherlands Expedia.com itinerary number: 17862716387 Round Trip Flight: from San Luis Obispo, CA (SBP) to Amsterdam, Netherlands (AMS-Schiphol) Depart: 22-Nov-03 at 2:05 PM Arrive: 23-Nov-03 at 4:25 PM Depart: San Luis Obispo (SBP), 22-Nov-03 at 2:05 PM Arrive: Los Angeles (LAX), 22-Nov-03 at 3:05 PM Terminal 7 Flight: United Airlines 6233, OPERATED BY UNITED EXPRESS/SKYWEST Aircraft: EMB-120 Meal Service: n/a Duration: Not Available Distance: 149 mi (240 km) Economy/Coach Class Depart: Los Angeles (LAX), 22-Nov-03 at 5:30 PM Terminal 6 Arrive: London (LHR), 23-Nov-03 at 12:00 PM Terminal 3 Flight: United Airlines 934 Aircraft: Boeing 777 Meal Service: Dinner Duration: Not Available Distance: 5442 mi (8758 km) Economy/Coach Class Depart: London (LHR), 23-Nov-03 at 2:15 PM Terminal 1 Arrive: Amsterdam (AMS), 23-Nov-03 at 4:25 PM Flight: United Airlines 4848, OPERATED BY BMI -- BD109 Aircraft: Airbus A321 Meal Service: Snack Duration: Not Available Distance: 217 mi (349 km) Economy/Coach Class Flight: from Amsterdam, Netherlands (AMS-Schiphol) to San Luis Obispo, CA (SBP) Depart: 30-Nov-03 at 9:40 AM Arrive: 30-Nov-03 at 4:51 PM Depart: Amsterdam (AMS), 30-Nov-03 at 9:40 AM Arrive: London (LHR), 30-Nov-03 at 10:00 AM Terminal 1 Flight: United Airlines 4845, OPERATED BY BMI -- BD102 Aircraft: Airbus A321 Meal Service: Breakfast Duration: Not Available Distance: 217 mi (349 km) Economy/Coach Class Depart: London (LHR), 30-Nov-03 at 11:30 AM Terminal 3 Arrive: Los Angeles (LAX), 30-Nov-03 at 2:45 PM Terminal 6 Flight: United Airlines 935 Aircraft: Boeing 777 Meal Service: Lunch Duration: Not Available Distance: 5442 mi (8758 km) Economy/Coach Class Depart: Los Angeles (LAX), 30-Nov-03 at 4:00 PM Terminal 7 Arrive: San Luis Obispo (SBP), 30-Nov-03 at 4:51 PM Flight: United Airlines 6230, OPERATED BY UNITED EXPRESS/SKYWEST Aircraft: EMB-120 Meal Service: n/a Duration: Not Available Distance: 149 mi (240 km) Economy/Coach Class -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COST SUMMARY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 adult $624.00 Taxes: $121.79 Service Fees: $5.00 Total Cost: $750.79 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR FLIGHT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Airlines require government-issued photo identification upon check in, such as a drivers license or passport. 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Thank you for choosing Expedia.com Don't Just Travel. Travel Right. From rob@eorbit.net Thu Oct 2 13:48:08 2003 Received: from eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92Km7TC005527 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:48:07 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:48:18 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Robert Kaye To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Calling all interested parties X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 20:48:09 -0000 Hi! I think its time to go and buy some tickets for going to Europe. I'm finding $750 fares from SLO and Zannie is finding fares for just under $600 going SFO -> AMS. That's what its looking like right now -- so far the fare sales we've hoped for have not materialized. :-( So, if you're thinking of going, please post to the list with the following info: 1. I am going: Yes/No 2. I want to leave from SLO/SFO/LAX. 3. I want to travel on these dates: (suggested 11/22 to 11/30) Let's figure out who is going and then we'll figure out how to nail down the tickets. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From jax@punk.net Thu Oct 2 13:56:58 2003 Received: from mordred.punk.net (mordred.punk.net [216.218.194.216]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92KuvTC005851 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:56:58 -0700 Received: from mail.punk.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mordred.punk.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h92KuoMG014286 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:56:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jax@punk.net) Received: from 206.190.81.126 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jax) by mail.punk.net with HTTP; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2191.206.190.81.126.1065128210.squirrel@mail.punk.net> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Calling all interested parties From: "Shawn Jacques" To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 20:56:59 -0000 I'm bowing out this year...but now that I'll be living with Rob and Jean I'm sure I'll get the hard sell for next year. ;-) Jax Robert Kaye said: > Hi! > > I think its time to go and buy some tickets for going to Europe. I'm > finding $750 fares from SLO and Zannie is finding fares for just under > $600 going SFO -> AMS. > > That's what its looking like right now -- so far the fare sales we've > hoped for have not materialized. :-( > > So, if you're thinking of going, please post to the list with the > following info: > > 1. I am going: Yes/No > 2. I want to leave from SLO/SFO/LAX. > 3. I want to travel on these dates: (suggested 11/22 to 11/30) > > Let's figure out who is going and then we'll figure out how to nail > down the tickets. > > -- > > --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. > > Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > -- Do not follow the path. Go where there is no path and leave a trail. From zannie@eorbit.net Thu Oct 2 14:05:27 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h92L5QTC006319 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:05:26 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <61835.206.159.99.37.1065128726.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:05:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] SBP vs SFO X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 21:05:28 -0000 So flights are cheaper out of San Francisco, obviously. The challenge is deciding whether it's worth it. To drive up there, you've got the added travel time and the cost of gas and public transportation. I'm sure we can arrange to leave a vehicle or two somewhere "close enough," so parking costs aren't really necessary. I think it generally costs me about $40 to drive to San Francisco and back (but maybe a bit more with a fully loaded car). The itinerary I posted is about $180 cheaper than flights I can find out of SLO. I could take up to three other people in my car, and I have a pretty comfortable back seat. For that much of a price difference I'm leaning toward taking the SF flight, but have not purchased tickets yet. Let me know if you're interested. I'm having a feeling of deja vu here, so sorry if I've posted this before. :) Zannie -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From lillian@boojiboy.eorbit.net Thu Oct 2 14:02:36 2003 Received: from overlord (adsl-64-166-167-0.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [64.166.167.0]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92L2ZTD006095 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:02:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Calling all interested parties From: lillian To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065129192.20952.191.camel@overlord> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 14:13:13 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 14:09:53 -0700 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 21:02:37 -0000 On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 13:48, Robert Kaye wrote: > 1. I am going: Yes/No Yes, assuming no work interference. See below. > 2. I want to leave from SLO/SFO/LAX. I want to leave from LA, but might need to leave from SEATTLE. See below. > 3. I want to travel on these dates: (suggested 11/22 to 11/30) I want to leave on 11/22, and might be able to; see below. Below: I am tent. scheduled for a week of training and tech seminars in Seattle from 11/17 - 11/21. Those dates are not totally solid though, but I'm not in control of the particulars; Microsoft is. Ugh. There is only one set of sessions and they may change the dates, so I might get screwed if they move them into the 11/22 - 11/30 window, although that is doubtful, considering that would overlap Thanksgiving. So I might need to leave from Seattle because I don't particularly want to fly back from Seattle to SLO (or LA or SFO) on Friday evening, then fly to Amsterdam early Saturday morning (from SLO, or LA or SFO). Leaving from Seattle seems smarter, but then there is the whole "extra/non-overlapping clothing and luggage" issue; a week of polos and pants is not what I'd intended to wear in Amsterdam, and I don't know if I can (or want to) take that much luggage with me to cover both locations. Suggestions regarding my plight are appreciated. lil -- "It is a world within the world, and, if there be such places between the things of the world, places built in the gaps, then surely there are things there, and places between them, and things in those places too. And Tessa doesn't know this, and it is not Chevette's place to tell her." William Gibson - "All Tomorrow's Parties" From zannie@eorbit.net Thu Oct 2 14:32:14 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h92LWDTC007226 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:32:13 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <64539.206.159.99.37.1065130333.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1065129192.20952.191.camel@overlord> References: <1065129192.20952.191.camel@overlord> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Flight Plight From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 21:32:16 -0000 lillian said: > Suggestions regarding my plight are appreciated. Here's a thought. Pack your stuff for Amsterdam. Give it to me. Fly from Seattle to San Francisco Friday night and stay with Russ and Pam or Kevin and Bronwyn or someone. Leave your Seattle stuff there and get your Amsterdam stuff from me, and fly to Amsterdam from San Francisco. Pick up your Seattle stuff on the way home. I know you prefer LAX, but it would have to be -ing cheap for me to be willing to drive down there (ick!) and leave my car in long term parking for $100. Flying directly from Seattle is probably going to be *really* expensive unless you intend to fly back to Seattle on your way home, since you would not be getting a round trip ticket. My two cents. Zannie From lillian@boojiboy.eorbit.net Thu Oct 2 14:45:31 2003 Received: from overlord (adsl-64-166-167-0.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [64.166.167.0]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92LjUTD007808 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:45:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Flight Plight From: lillian To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <64539.206.159.99.37.1065130333.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <1065129192.20952.191.camel@overlord> <64539.206.159.99.37.1065130333.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065131768.20952.198.camel@overlord> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 14:56:08 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 21:45:32 -0000 Hmmm, On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 14:32, Zannie wrote: > lillian said: > > Suggestions regarding my plight are appreciated. > > Here's a thought. > > Pack your stuff for Amsterdam. Give it to me. Fly from Seattle to San > Francisco Friday night and stay with Russ and Pam or Kevin and Bronwyn or > someone. Leave your Seattle stuff there and get your Amsterdam stuff from > me, and fly to Amsterdam from San Francisco. Pick up your Seattle stuff > on the way home. I hadn't thought of that...that might work. I'll still have to get a way back from SF to SLO after Amsterdam, but that's doable in any case. > I know you prefer LAX, but it would have to be expletives here>-ing cheap for me to be willing to drive down there (ick!) > and leave my car in long term parking for $100. > > Flying directly from Seattle is probably going to be *really* expensive > unless you intend to fly back to Seattle on your way home, since you would > not be getting a round trip ticket. I hadn't thought about the non-round trip part of it either, and thats also a very good point. > My two cents. > > Zannie > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams -- lillian From rob@eorbit.net Thu Oct 2 15:20:28 2003 Received: from eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92MKSTC008965 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:20:28 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:20:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Calling all interested parties Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <1065129192.20952.191.camel@overlord> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:20:29 -0000 On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 02:13 PM, lillian wrote: > So I might need to leave from Seattle because I don't particularly want > to fly back from Seattle to SLO (or LA or SFO) on Friday evening, then > fly to Amsterdam early Saturday morning (from SLO, or LA or SFO). > Leaving from Seattle seems smarter, but then there is the whole > "extra/non-overlapping clothing and luggage" issue; a week of polos and > pants is not what I'd intended to wear in Amsterdam, and I don't know > if > I can (or want to) take that much luggage with me to cover both > locations. I think Zannie's suggestions have been right on so far. A for the getting back to SLO part. I would suggest that you schedule your SEA trip as follows: SBP -> SEA Do your M$ thing SEA -> SFO Have an 'extended' layover as far as ALH is concerned, but just fly on to AMS instead of SBP SFO -> AMS party it up AMS -> SFO pick up where ALH sponsored ticket left off SFO -> SBP This way you're only liable for SFO <-> AMS and ALH gets to foot the bill for the 'long layover'. And if your dates line up, you can have Zannie deliver your AMS luggage and send your SEA luggage back with whomever drops Zannie & Co off at SFO. Confused yet?? So the running count is: Lil, Zannie, Jean, Rob: going Erin & Ray: assumed going Mike Falk, Dan: no word yet Jax, Turtle, Joel: Not going > -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From elf@elf-design.com Thu Oct 2 15:24:18 2003 Received: from ezr.doomsong.net (adsl-209-204-169-17.sonic.net [209.204.169.17]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92MOITC009241 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:24:18 -0700 Received: by ezr.doomsong.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DC83E1C0F; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezr.doomsong.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C7F1BE6 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:24:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Erin Ferree X-X-Sender: elf@ezr.doomsong.net To: Amsterdam travel plans list Subject: Re: [ams] Calling all interested parties In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031002152316.T57566@ezr.doomsong.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:24:19 -0000 We'll be there, training it in from Barcelona. I don't know our itenerary as far as dates go, but we'll be there. -------------- Erin L. Ferree elf design - Increasing your visibility, credibility and memorability. P.O. Box 5052, San Mateo, CA 94402 phone 650-358-9973 / fax 240-597-1083 http://www.elf-design.com On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Robert Kaye wrote: > > On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 02:13 PM, lillian wrote: > > So I might need to leave from Seattle because I don't particularly want > > to fly back from Seattle to SLO (or LA or SFO) on Friday evening, then > > fly to Amsterdam early Saturday morning (from SLO, or LA or SFO). > > Leaving from Seattle seems smarter, but then there is the whole > > "extra/non-overlapping clothing and luggage" issue; a week of polos and > > pants is not what I'd intended to wear in Amsterdam, and I don't know > > if > > I can (or want to) take that much luggage with me to cover both > > locations. > > I think Zannie's suggestions have been right on so far. > > A for the getting back to SLO part. I would suggest that you schedule > your SEA trip as follows: > > SBP -> SEA > Do your M$ thing > SEA -> SFO > Have an 'extended' layover as far as ALH is concerned, but just fly on > to AMS instead of SBP > SFO -> AMS > party it up > AMS -> SFO > pick up where ALH sponsored ticket left off > SFO -> SBP > > This way you're only liable for SFO <-> AMS and ALH gets to foot the > bill for the 'long layover'. > And if your dates line up, you can have Zannie deliver your AMS luggage > and send your SEA luggage back with whomever drops Zannie & Co off at > SFO. > > Confused yet?? > > So the running count is: > > Lil, Zannie, Jean, Rob: going > Erin & Ray: assumed going > Mike Falk, Dan: no word yet > Jax, Turtle, Joel: Not going > > > -- > > --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. > > Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > From ray@doomsong.net Thu Oct 2 15:34:52 2003 Received: from pop1.corp.av.com (pop1.corp.altavista.com [209.73.174.105]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92MYpTC009548 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:34:51 -0700 Received: from [172.23.69.30] (d172236930.paq.av.com [172.23.69.30]) by pop1.corp.av.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h92MYoUt004713 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 15:34:48 -0700 From: Ray Thro To: Amsterdam travel plans list Subject: Re: [ams] Calling all interested parties Message-ID: <2147483647.1065108888@[172.23.69.30]> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.0b8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:34:53 -0000 --On Thursday, October 2, 2003 3:20 PM -0700 Robert Kaye wrote: > So the running count is: > > Lil, Zannie, Jean, Rob: going > Erin & Ray: assumed going > Mike Falk, Dan: no word yet > Jax, Turtle, Joel: Not going Yup, as Erin said, we'll be there. We're working Amsterdam into our Honeymoon Tour o' Europe (TM) so we won't be there nearly as long as the rest of you. Already took care of our own flight and accomodations, so no need to include us in those. For those interested, we're staying at the 't Hotel (http://www.thotel.nl/), arriving on Wed 11/26, departing Sun 11/30. -- ray From rob@eorbit.net Thu Oct 2 15:36:21 2003 Received: from eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92MaKTC009595 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:36:20 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:36:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Calling all interested parties Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20031002152316.T57566@ezr.doomsong.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:36:21 -0000 On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 03:24 PM, Erin Ferree wrote: > > We'll be there, training it in from Barcelona. I don't know our > itenerary > as far as dates go, but we'll be there. Wow. Train for Barcelona, eh? Long but beautiful ride -- I've done it. You could take this train: Barcelona Sants 11-21-03 21:05pm (Nighttrain with sleeper cars) Paris Austerlitz 11-22-03 8:48am Use metro to go to Paris Nord, then Paris Nord 11-22-03 9:55am (Thalys -- high speed, res. req.) Amsterdam CS 11-22-03 2:06pm Or you can fly EasyJet (easyjet.com) for 78 Euros. > -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From rob@eorbit.net Thu Oct 2 15:40:27 2003 Received: from eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92MeQTC009751 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:40:26 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:40:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Calling all interested parties Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1065108888@[172.23.69.30]> Message-Id: <712A0989-F529-11D7-9307-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:40:28 -0000 On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 03:34 PM, Ray Thro wrote: > For those interested, we're staying at the 't Hotel > (http://www.thotel.nl/), arriving on Wed 11/26, departing Sun 11/30. Cool! We're thinking of staying in the same rough area. Perhaps 5-10 minute walk away... > -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From lillian@boojiboy.eorbit.net Thu Oct 2 15:48:28 2003 Received: from overlord (adsl-64-166-167-0.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [64.166.167.0]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92MmQTD010012 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:48:27 -0700 From: lillian To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065135545.20954.202.camel@overlord> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 15:59:05 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Clothing/Packing suggestions for a Ams-Newbie X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:48:29 -0000 All, Could those of you who have been before make some suggestions regarding clothing (heavy jackets, boots, gloves, etc.)? I rarely wear shoes these days, let alone have appropriate attire for northern Europe in Late November. Also, any "you should really bring" items? lil -- lillian From elf@elf-design.com Thu Oct 2 15:55:26 2003 Received: from ezr.doomsong.net (adsl-209-204-169-17.sonic.net [209.204.169.17]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92MtPTC010255 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:55:25 -0700 Received: by ezr.doomsong.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 871B61C0F; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezr.doomsong.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEFD1BE6 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:55:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Erin Ferree X-X-Sender: elf@ezr.doomsong.net To: Amsterdam travel plans list Subject: Re: [ams] Clothing/Packing suggestions for a Ams-Newbie In-Reply-To: <1065135545.20954.202.camel@overlord> Message-ID: <20031002155503.G57566@ezr.doomsong.net> References: <1065135545.20954.202.camel@overlord> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:55:27 -0000 A light, collapsible rain jacket that you can carry with you, and layers. Lots of layers. -------------- Erin L. Ferree elf design - Increasing your visibility, credibility and memorability. P.O. Box 5052, San Mateo, CA 94402 phone 650-358-9973 / fax 240-597-1083 http://www.elf-design.com On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, lillian wrote: > All, > > Could those of you who have been before make some suggestions regarding > clothing (heavy jackets, boots, gloves, etc.)? I rarely wear shoes > these days, let alone have appropriate attire for northern Europe in > Late November. > > Also, any "you should really bring" items? > > lil > > -- > lillian > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > > From rob@eorbit.net Thu Oct 2 16:09:52 2003 Received: from eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h92N9pTC010634 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:09:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:10:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Clothing/Packing suggestions for a Ams-Newbie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <1065135545.20954.202.camel@overlord> Message-Id: <8CF64E5B-F52D-11D7-9307-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 23:09:52 -0000 On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 03:59 PM, lillian wrote: > All, > > Could those of you who have been before make some suggestions regarding > clothing (heavy jackets, boots, gloves, etc.)? I rarely wear shoes > these days, let alone have appropriate attire for northern Europe in > Late November. A'dam is a walking town. Good shoes are _required_. You will want to have some warm shoes, no doubt. And some shoes to withstand rain -- there may be quite a bit of rain. The weather in the past few years has been nice during the day (50s - 60s) with some sun sometimes and scattered showers at others. I've seen it get a lot colder around that time too. The weather seems to be fickle in Novemer -- it may be sunny one moment and raining the next. Be ready for 40 - 60 degree temps during the day, and 25 - 45 at night. As usual layered clothing is a must. I'd suggest bringing the following: 1. A warm jacket. Best if its waterproof. If not, make sure to have a compact umbrella. 2. A hat/beanie, a scarf, gloves. 3. Long pants. The .nl'ers will look at you funny wearning shorts. Trust me. 4. Long t-shirts. Sweaters. 5. For the girls, thermal underwear. > Also, any "you should really bring" items? A'dam is a civilized place where you can buy everything you need. Too cold? Easy to find a new jacket or a sweater. For general travel planning: 1. Passport, tickets. 2. All toiletries you may need. 3. A calling card or a GSM tri band phone -- anyone who has a tri mode GSM phone laying around, bring it. Prepaid service plans are cheap and really useful. 4. Duck tape. 5. Bring a change of clothes or at least some warmer clothes in your carryon. If your luggage is gone and takes 2 days to catch up with you, you'll be glad you brought some clothes to wear. I usually have some basic toiletries and my jacket in carry on for this reason. 6. A camera. 7. Your spare liver -- there are many good things to drink in A'dam. And don't forget the spare lung too. 8. Don't worry too much about money belts and other travel safety issues. While there is some pickpocketing going on overall its quite safe. So whatever purses/pants/jackets you plan to run around in should have zippered pockets to keep your valuables safe. Don't walk around with your passport unless you have to. 9. If you smoke cloves, bring them. They are not for sale there. > -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From rob@eorbit.net Fri Oct 3 00:36:31 2003 Received: from boobs.eorbit.net (boobs.eorbit.net [10.200.2.70]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h937aUTD020900 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 00:36:30 -0700 From: Robert Kaye To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065166589.18719.17.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 00:36:30 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] [Fwd: Your E-mail Confirmation from United] X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 07:36:32 -0000 Ben, the latest newcomer to the A'dam trip, Jean and Dan just purchased their tickets for Amsterdam. The three of them concluded that they would all like to have an extra day and are leaving on Friday, instead of saturday: November 21: United 6233 SBP 2:05pm LAX 3:05pm 934 LAX 5:30pm LHR 12:00pm (next day) 4848 LHR 2:15pm AMS 5:25pm (operated by British Midland) November 30: United 4845 AMS 9:40am LHR 10:00am (operated by British Midland) 935 LHR 11:30am LAX 2:45pm 6230 LAX 4:00pm SBP 4:51pm Lil and Zannie: * Leave Friday or saturday, it matters not. I will be arriving Sunday in A'dam... * If the ticket prices seem jumpy and you can't nail down your favorite ticket, call the airline directly. We got the exact flights we wanted and it was $6 cheaper than online. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From rob@eorbit.net Fri Oct 3 00:58:03 2003 Received: from boobs.eorbit.net (boobs.eorbit.net [10.200.2.70]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h937w2TD021448 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 00:58:02 -0700 From: Robert Kaye To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065167882.18719.31.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 00:58:02 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] One apartment possibility X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 07:58:05 -0000 Check out apartment 113-1: http://www.canalapartments.com/rates.html The price is reasonable and two teams of two will sleep on queen futons, each on their own level in the apartment. Two people go on a king bed in the master bedroom. It even comes with a net connection and a computer. 2040 Euro a week and 340 Euro a day. We'd need it for 8 days, this it would be 2380 Euro. That's 396 Euro per person, and that comes to 49.50 Euro per night. The locatio is so-so -- its a little more than twice as far as Erin and Ray are from the dam, and it would take 15 minutes walking or 3 trams stops to get to the center of things. Something to look at... -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From rob@eorbit.net Fri Oct 3 01:22:05 2003 Received: from boobs.eorbit.net (boobs.eorbit.net [10.200.2.70]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h938M3TD021924 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:22:04 -0700 From: Robert Kaye To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065169323.18806.38.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 01:22:03 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Another cool apt X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 08:22:06 -0000 This one is cheap but a little off to the side in location -- not too much interesting stuff here, but we could conceivably rent bikes and bike into the center of town: http://www.canalwatch.com/apartment_pinotblanc.html -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From rob@eorbit.net Sat Oct 4 01:50:04 2003 Received: from boobs.eorbit.net (boobs.eorbit.net [10.200.2.70]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h948o3TD028354 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2003 01:50:03 -0700 From: Robert Kaye To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065257402.22750.4.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 01:50:02 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] A couple of martinis later... X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:50:05 -0000 And Martin and Luella are joining us in the netherlands. They leave a bit earlier than Ben, Jean and Dan, but arrive at the same time. Now we can get two of the two bedroom apartments! This is getting serious! -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Mon Oct 6 12:06:12 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h96J6BTC022475 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:06:11 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <63463.206.159.99.37.1065467171.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:06:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Argh! X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:06:14 -0000 Okay, so first thing this morning I asked for and was given Friday, November 21 off of work. Just went to look at tickets. I can get on the same flight a few of you are on (Jean, Ben and Dan?) for $825. I can get on a flight that leaves SBP at 4:10 on Friday and shares the London -> AMS flight with your flight (basically, I land in AMS on the same plane you do) for $806, and has the exact same flight as yours on the return. Right now this looks like my best and cheapest option out of SBP. What was that other place someone was talking about? Airlines Consolidated or something? Would it be worth my time to try them? I have a feeling waiting longer is a bad idea--lost $50 just waiting over the weekend to ask for the extra day off. Zannie -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From zannie@eorbit.net Mon Oct 6 12:11:16 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h96JBFTC022596 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:11:15 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <64006.206.159.99.37.1065467475.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <63463.206.159.99.37.1065467171.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <63463.206.159.99.37.1065467171.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Argh! From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:11:18 -0000 Zannie said: > I can get on the same flight a few of you are on (Jean, Ben and Dan?) for > $825. > > I can get on a flight that leaves SBP at 4:10 on Friday and shares the > London -> AMS flight with your flight (basically, I land in AMS on the > same plane you do) for $806, and has the exact same flight as yours on the > return. Right now this looks like my best and cheapest option out of SBP. On the other hand, I could pay the $20 to have company the whole time. What would you guys do? Zannie -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From rob@eorbit.net Mon Oct 6 12:49:14 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h96JnDTD023979 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:49:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Argh! From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <63463.206.159.99.37.1065467171.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <63463.206.159.99.37.1065467171.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1065469751.2555.10.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 12:49:12 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:49:17 -0000 On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 12:06, Zannie wrote: > Okay, so first thing this morning I asked for and was given Friday, > November 21 off of work. > > Just went to look at tickets. > > I can get on the same flight a few of you are on (Jean, Ben and Dan?) for > $825. > > I can get on a flight that leaves SBP at 4:10 on Friday and shares the > London -> AMS flight with your flight (basically, I land in AMS on the > same plane you do) for $806, and has the exact same flight as yours on the > return. Right now this looks like my best and cheapest option out of SBP. > > What was that other place someone was talking about? Airlines > Consolidated or something? That was me. > Would it be worth my time to try them? They didn't have anything open last time I called them. > I have > a feeling waiting longer is a bad idea--lost $50 just waiting over the > weekend to ask for the extra day off. Things are still fluctuating wildly, it seems. I would suggest doing two things: 1. Keep an eye on the price throughout the day. 2. Call United and see if the phone price is any different. On the other hand, I could pay the $20 to have company the whole time. > > What would you guys do? > I would pay the extra $20 for two reasons: 1. It goes through LA and the connection times are more sound. 2. You'll be with Friends. Good luck! -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Mon Oct 6 14:44:58 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h96LiwTC029230 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:44:58 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <64884.206.159.99.37.1065476698.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:44:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] [Fwd: ALVAREZ, SUSANNA] X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 21:44:59 -0000 This crappily formatted itinerary, which I purchased a few minutes ago, is the same as Jean, Dan and Ben's. ********************** Itinerary ************************ AIR> Nov 21 UA(oper. by United Express/Skywest)# 6233 SBP --> LAX 2:05 pm 3:05 pm AIR> Nov 21 UA # 934 LAX --> LHR 5:30 pm 12:00 pm (Next day) AIR> Nov 22 UA(oper. by Bmi)# 4848 LHR --> AMS 2:15 pm 4:25 pm AIR> Nov 30 UA(oper. by Bmi)# 4845 AMS --> LHR 9:40 am 10:00 am AIR> Nov 30 UA # 935 LHR --> LAX 11:30 am 2:45 pm AIR> Nov 30 UA(oper. by United Express/Skywest)# 6230 LAX --> SBP 4:00 pm 4:51 pm ************************************************************* This customer was quoted USD 818.63 (per person) for this trip From makosc@hotmail.com Mon Oct 6 17:10:16 2003 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f20.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.20]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h970AFTC000952 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:10:15 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:10:15 -0700 Received: from 24.205.229.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 00:10:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.205.229.117] X-Originating-Email: [makosc@hotmail.com] From: "Benjamin Mussen" To: ams@eorbit.net Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 17:10:06 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2003 00:10:15.0359 (UTC) FILETIME=[6233D4F0:01C38C67] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] luggage X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 00:10:17 -0000
    For those of you who are looking for luggage, I went down to SLO Luggage today to check out prices.  The prices were actually better than what I was seeing on line for the samsonite luggage.
     
     
    I saw only one of these in black, but the price is only $99.
     
     
    These were about the same price.  Personally, I think these are better suited for short people since the handle doesn't extend.
     
     
    And this is the one I'm thinking of picking up.  I believe this is very similiar to the one Jean has.  SLO luggage sells these for $220.  I was originally thinking about the FLite series, but after looking at them both I think the Silhouette 8 series is constructed much better.  But they both come with the ten year warranty.
     
    Good luck kids.
     
    Ben
     

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From rob@eorbit.net Tue Oct 7 10:16:27 2003 Received: from boobs.eorbit.net (boobs.eorbit.net [10.200.2.70]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h97HGRTD023001 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:16:27 -0700 From: Robert Kaye To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065546987.24280.21.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:16:27 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Apartments X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 17:16:28 -0000 The people renting the Kattengat apartments suck ass -- it took them a long time to get back to me and now they don't have two 2 bedroom places available. Sigh. She pointed me to another property and quoted me 525 Euro per night for all 8 of us. This is the same property that is being rented out by some other company, and the other company has much clearer website and booking process: http://www.amsterdamby.com/demonnik/index.html The apartments look really nice and are in a pretty good location off the new market. Its on the edge of the redlight and about a 10-12 minute walk away from Ray & Erin's hotel -- that's not the best, but the apartments are still in a great location. 525 Euro/night comes to 525 Euro per person for the entire duration (8 people, 8 nights, easy math, eh?) which is a little higher than we had hoped for. Take a look at the web page and tell me what you think. I've put in a query to see if the price is the same through these people as through the no-talent-ass-clowns. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Tue Oct 7 10:50:32 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h97HoWTC023995 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:50:32 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <61253.206.159.99.37.1065549032.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1065546987.24280.21.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> References: <1065546987.24280.21.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Apartments From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 17:50:33 -0000 Robert Kaye said: > http://www.amsterdamby.com/demonnik/index.html > > The apartments look really nice and are in a pretty good location off > the new market. Its on the edge of the redlight and about a 10-12 minute > walk away from Ray & Erin's hotel -- that's not the best, but the > apartments are still in a great location. I'm a little confused about sleeping arrangements, though. The site says: -Two 1-Room Apartments with a double bed -Four 2-Rooms Apartments with one double bedroom and one twin bedroom -Three 3-Rooms Apartments with one double bedroom, one twin bedroom and one single bedroom. Are we talking about getting two 3 room apartments? Or is there a couch or something in the 2 room apartments? > 525 Euro/night comes to 525 Euro per person for the entire duration (8 > people, 8 nights, easy math, eh?) which is a little higher than we had > hoped for. Take a look at the web page and tell me what you think. $618 is a bit more than I'd like to pay, but if that's what it takes, that's what it takes. (Between that and my plane ticket I'm over $1400 already.) If it's possible to cut that cost down a bit while still staying close enough to things to be kind to Dan's neck, that would be good. But I'm definitely willing to pay extra to keep Dan with us. Zannie -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From makosc@hotmail.com Tue Oct 7 11:16:49 2003 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f69.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.69]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h97IGmTC025083 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:16:48 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:16:48 -0700 Received: from 24.205.229.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:16:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.205.229.117] X-Originating-Email: [makosc@hotmail.com] From: "Benjamin Mussen" To: ams@eorbit.net Subject: Re: [ams] Apartments Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 11:16:45 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2003 18:16:48.0380 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C4563C0:01C38CFF] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:16:49 -0000

    I noticed one possible problem with these apartments.  The two room apt only has two beds.  One double and one twin according to the accommodations section.  But in the photo gallery there are pictures of what looks like a bedroom with two singles/twins in it.  So I dunno.  Bad description in the accommodations section?  Something we might want to clarify before we book.

    Ben



     

    >From: Robert Kaye
    >Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list
    >To: ams@eorbit.net
    >Subject: [ams] Apartments
    >Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:16:27 -0700
    >
    >The people renting the Kattengat apartments suck ass -- it took them a
    >long time to get back to me and now they don't have two 2 bedroom places
    >available. Sigh.
    >
    >She pointed me to another property and quoted me 525 Euro per night for
    >all 8 of us. This is the same property that is being rented out by some
    >other company, and the other company has much clearer website and
    >booking process:
    >
    > http://www.amsterdamby.com/demonnik/index.html
    >
    >The apartments look really nice and are in a pretty good location off
    >the new market. Its on the edge of the redlight and about a 10-12 minute
    >walk away from Ray & Erin's hotel -- that's not the best, but the
    >apartments are still in a great location.
    >
    >525 Euro/night comes to 525 Euro per person for the entire duration (8
    >people, 8 nights, easy math, eh?) which is a little higher than we had
    >hoped for. Take a look at the web page and tell me what you think.
    >
    >I've put in a query to see if the price is the same through these people
    >as through the no-talent-ass-clowns.
    >
    >--
    >
    >--ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot.
    >
    >Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net
    >
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From rob@eorbit.net Tue Oct 7 11:53:31 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h97IrUTD026120 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:53:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Apartments From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <61253.206.159.99.37.1065549032.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <1065546987.24280.21.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> <61253.206.159.99.37.1065549032.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1065552809.2325.14.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 11:53:29 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:53:31 -0000 On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 10:50, Zannie wrote: > -Two 1-Room Apartments with a double bed > -Four 2-Rooms Apartments with one double bedroom and one twin bedroom > -Three 3-Rooms Apartments with one double bedroom, one twin bedroom and > one single bedroom. Unfortunately all the sites are a little confused about this type of stuff. :-( The good thing is that the reservatio request form gave me lots of detail to specify what we are looking for, so I think they have a good idea what we're looking for. > Are we talking about getting two 3 room apartments? Or is there a couch > or something in the 2 room apartments? Not sure -- we'll have to wait for an answer. > $618 is a bit more than I'd like to pay, but if that's what it takes, > that's what it takes. (Between that and my plane ticket I'm over $1400 > already.) If it's possible to cut that cost down a bit while still > staying close enough to things to be kind to Dan's neck I hear ya, and I am not happy about it either. I'll keep looking, but I'm not finding anything that I haven't already ruled out. :-( -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From luella@eorbit.net Tue Oct 7 13:32:53 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h97KWqTC029421 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:32:52 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2394.10.200.2.164.1065558772.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1065552809.2325.14.camel@cranky> References: <1065546987.24280.21.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> <61253.206.159.99.37.1065549032.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1065552809.2325.14.camel@cranky> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Apartments From: "Luella Cruz" To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:32:54 -0000 >> $618 is a bit more than I'd like to pay, but if that's what it takes, >> that's what it takes. (Between that and my plane ticket I'm over $1400 >> already.) If it's possible to cut that cost down a bit while still >> staying close enough to things to be kind to Dan's neck > > I hear ya, and I am not happy about it either. I'll keep looking, but > I'm not finding anything that I haven't already ruled out. :-( The place looks really cool. And yeah $1216 for Martin and I is a little steep, especially since we had to already shell out $320 for passports and all the fuss that goes along with it. But if that's what can be found that's decent for all our needs, then so be it. Thank you Rob for all your efforts. ~lu From rob@eorbit.net Tue Oct 7 14:07:48 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h97L7mTD031080 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 14:07:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Apartments From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <2394.10.200.2.164.1065558772.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <1065546987.24280.21.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> <61253.206.159.99.37.1065549032.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1065552809.2325.14.camel@cranky> <2394.10.200.2.164.1065558772.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1065560867.2325.55.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 14:07:47 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 21:07:49 -0000 On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 13:32, Luella Cruz wrote: > The place looks really cool. And yeah $1216 for Martin and I is a little > steep, especially since we had to already shell out $320 for passports and > all the fuss that goes along with it. But if that's what can be found > that's decent for all our needs, then so be it. Personally I don't think we need a place as nice ase Monnikenstraat -- afterall we don't plan to be in the apartment that much. I'd prefer for a more simply furnished/smaller place. It may be time to start looking for group hotel rooms, rather than apartment rentals... -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Tue Oct 7 19:27:34 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h982RYTC008780 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 19:27:34 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.139 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Tue, 7 Oct 2003 19:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1298.10.200.2.139.1065580054.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 19:27:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Hotel Quality? X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 02:27:35 -0000 So I've just started researching the regular hotel route, and it looks like this is a significantly cheaper way to go. I don't know if the ones I'm looking at would be rat infested dens of disease, or just inexpensive. Can anyone who's been (is that just Rob and Jean?) give me an opinion on a hotel such as this one: http://www.amsterdam-holland-hotels.net/eden/hotel.htm It's number 31 on this map: http://www.amsterdam-holland-hotels.net/amsterdam-map.htm Two quad rooms for 4 week nights and 4 weekend nights comes to 358.5 Euros each at this hotel, at their current rates, which expire at the end of October. How does that strike everyone? Zannie From luella@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 00:09:20 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9879KTC016398 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:09:20 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1773.10.200.2.164.1065596960.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:09:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Luella Cruz" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Rooms that I found... X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 07:09:23 -0000 What do you guys think of these??? http://www.bookings.nl/hotels/hoksbergen?lang=uk&id=300530&style=B http://www.bookings.nl/hotels/gerstekorrel?lang=uk&id=300530&style=B http://www.bookings.nl/hotels/rokin?lang=uk&id=300530&style=B http://www.bookings.nl/hotels/avenue?lang=uk&id=300530&style=B ~lu From luella@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 00:42:02 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h987g1TC017306 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:42:01 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1862.10.200.2.164.1065598921.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:42:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Luella Cruz" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Rokin X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 07:42:02 -0000 I just received notive that Rokin can accomodate the booking request. I have 24-hours to accept it. Here's the low down: -------------------------------------------------------- Description request -------------------------------------------------------- Room type: Quad private Quad room with telephone, TV, safe, private shower / toilet Room rate (untill 15th November 2003 & 21st December 2003 & 4th January 2004): EUR 185 Room rate (16th November 2003 - 20th December 2003 & 5th January - 15th March 2004): EUR 145 Rate per room per night, including breakfast, service and taxes * PLEASE NOTE the minimum stay of 4 nights: 9th - 18th September; and if 31st December 2003 and/or 1st January 2004 included Arrival: Friday 21 November 2003 Departure: Sunday 30 November 2003 Number of nights: 9 Number of rooms: 2 Number of persons: 8 Preferred bed type: No preference Comments / Questions: For the preferred bed type, we would need to accommodations for 2 couples and 4 individuals. I'll let you know what the other places say as I receive them. ~lu From luella@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 00:45:00 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h987j0TC017413 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:45:00 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1874.10.200.2.164.1065599100.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:45:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Luella Cruz" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Avenue Hotel X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 07:45:01 -0000 Got another acceptance for Avenue Hotel... Confirmation of booking Avenue Hotel ------------------------------------------------------------------- Important: To guarantee and reconfirm your reservation kindly fax us your credit card number and expiry date within 24 hours. Otherwise, we assume you will not need the room and we will cancel this reservation. If you have any questions don't hesitate to contact us. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for booking a room in Hotel Avenue. Our address is: Nieuwezijds Voorburgwal 33, 1012 RD Amsterdam Telephone: +31 (0)20 - 530 95 30 Fax: +31 (0)20 - 530 95 99 E-mail: info@avenue-hotel.nl Internet: http://www.bookings.nl/hotels/avenue We accept the following credit cards: Amex, Visa, Euro/Master, Diners Club, JCB, PIN Cancellation by phone or fax: 24 hours before date of arrival Check In: 14.00 hours Check Out: 12.00 hours We are looking forward to welcoming you. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Booking details ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hotel: Avenue Hotel Booking ID: 13680826 Arrival: Friday, November 21st 2003 Departure: Sunday, November 30th 2003 Number of nights: 9 Number of rooms: 2 Number of persons: 8 2 x Quad room Four persons room with private shower / bath, toilet, TV, in-house video and telephone The best rate available will be automatically selected for you Rate per room per night including Full American Breakfast Buffet and excluding taxes ----------------------------------------------------------------- Fri 21 Nov: 1 x Standard Rate (EUR 200) Fri 21 Nov: 1 x Special Rate (EUR 175) Sat 22 Nov: 1 x Standard Rate (EUR 200) Sat 22 Nov: 1 x Special Rate (EUR 175) Sun 23 Nov: 1 x Standard Rate (EUR 175) Sun 23 Nov: 1 x Special Rate (EUR 150) Mon 24 Nov: 1 x Standard Rate (EUR 175) Mon 24 Nov: 1 x Special Rate (EUR 150) Tue 25 Nov: 1 x Standard Rate (EUR 175) Tue 25 Nov: 1 x Special Rate (EUR 150) Wed 26 Nov: 1 x Standard Rate (EUR 175) Wed 26 Nov: 1 x Special Rate (EUR 150) Thu 27 Nov: 1 x Standard Rate (EUR 175) Thu 27 Nov: 1 x Special Rate (EUR 150) Fri 28 Nov: 1 x Standard Rate (EUR 200) Fri 28 Nov: 1 x Special Rate (EUR 175) Sat 29 Nov: 1 x Standard Rate (EUR 200) Sat 29 Nov: 1 x Special Rate (EUR 175) = EUR 3125 ----------------------------------------------------------------- == EUR 3125 == ----------------------------------------------------------------- Arrival: Friday 21 November 2003 Departure: Sunday 30 November 2003 Number of nights: 9 Number of rooms: 2 Number of persons: 8 Preferred bed type: No preference Comments / Questions: For the preferred bed type, we would need to accommodations for 2 couples and 4 individuals. ~lu From zannie@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 00:46:55 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h987ktTC017513 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:46:55 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.139 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2594.10.200.2.139.1065599215.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1862.10.200.2.164.1065598921.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <1862.10.200.2.164.1065598921.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Rokin From: "Zannie" To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 07:46:56 -0000 It's bedtime so I can't thoroghly evaluate this right now, but I just wanted to point out that while we're leaving here on the 21st, we arrive in Amsterdam on the 22nd and will need the hotel for only 8 nights. Looks good... is this one of the links you sent out? Luella Cruz said: > I just received notive that Rokin can accomodate the booking request. I > have 24-hours to accept it. > > Here's the low down: > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Description request > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Room type: Quad private > Quad room with telephone, TV, safe, private shower / toilet > Room rate (untill 15th November 2003 & 21st December 2003 & 4th January > 2004): EUR 185 > Room rate (16th November 2003 - 20th December 2003 & 5th January - 15th > March 2004): EUR 145 > Rate per room per night, including breakfast, service and taxes > * PLEASE NOTE the minimum stay of 4 nights: 9th - 18th September; and if > 31st December 2003 and/or 1st January 2004 included > > Arrival: Friday 21 November 2003 > Departure: Sunday 30 November 2003 > Number of nights: 9 > Number of rooms: 2 > Number of persons: 8 > Preferred bed type: No preference > > Comments / Questions: > For the preferred bed type, we would need to accommodations for 2 couples > and 4 individuals. > > I'll let you know what the other places say as I receive them. > > ~lu > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From luella@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 00:48:34 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h987mYTC017600 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:48:34 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1889.10.200.2.164.1065599314.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <2594.10.200.2.139.1065599215.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <1862.10.200.2.164.1065598921.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <2594.10.200.2.139.1065599215.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 00:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Rokin From: "Luella Cruz" To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 07:48:35 -0000 Yup Zannie said: > It's bedtime so I can't thoroghly evaluate this right now, but I just > wanted to point out that while we're leaving here on the 21st, we arrive > in Amsterdam on the 22nd and will need the hotel for only 8 nights. > > Looks good... is this one of the links you sent out? > > Luella Cruz said: >> I just received notive that Rokin can accomodate the booking request. I >> have 24-hours to accept it. >> >> Here's the low down: >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> Description request >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Room type: Quad private >> Quad room with telephone, TV, safe, private shower / toilet >> Room rate (untill 15th November 2003 & 21st December 2003 & 4th January >> 2004): EUR 185 >> Room rate (16th November 2003 - 20th December 2003 & 5th January - 15th >> March 2004): EUR 145 >> Rate per room per night, including breakfast, service and taxes >> * PLEASE NOTE the minimum stay of 4 nights: 9th - 18th September; and if >> 31st December 2003 and/or 1st January 2004 included >> >> Arrival: Friday 21 November 2003 >> Departure: Sunday 30 November 2003 >> Number of nights: 9 >> Number of rooms: 2 >> Number of persons: 8 >> Preferred bed type: No preference >> >> Comments / Questions: >> For the preferred bed type, we would need to accommodations for 2 >> couples >> and 4 individuals. >> >> I'll let you know what the other places say as I receive them. >> >> ~lu >> _______________________________________________ >> ams mailing list >> ams@eorbit.net >> http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams >> > > > -- > I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty > than to those attending too small a degree of it. > -- Thomas Jefferson > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > From rob@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 01:20:39 2003 Received: from boobs.eorbit.net (boobs.eorbit.net [10.200.2.70]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h988KcTD018560 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 01:20:38 -0700 From: Robert Kaye To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065601238.25665.228.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 01:20:38 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Rokin & Avenue hotels X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 08:20:39 -0000 Some more skinny on the two proposed hotels. Rokin review: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g188590-d264606-Reviews-Rokin_Hotel-Amsterdam_Noord_Holland.html Rokin home page: http://www.rokinhotel.com/home.html Avenue review: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g188590-d232325-Reviews-Avenue_Hotel-Amsterdam_Noord_Holland.html I think the Avenue hotel is the better one -- just by the star rating alone. The reviews also speak more favorably of the Avenue. However, both have really killer locations. The thing to consider for these arrangements is that a quad room is nothing but a room with four beds in it. The couples will have no privacy at all -- something to consider. Martin, Lue, Jean and myself might want to consider getting two doubles to have a little privacy -- the cost is only 5 Euros more per night. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From lillian@boojiboy.eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 08:47:51 2003 Received: from overlord (adsl-64-166-167-0.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [64.166.167.0]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h98FloTD026746 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:47:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Rokin & Avenue hotels From: lillian To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <1065601238.25665.228.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> References: <1065601238.25665.228.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065628806.20952.233.camel@overlord> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 09:00:06 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 15:47:53 -0000 Hey, I'm easy on either of these. However, the couples/privacy issue Rob brought up seems pretty valid. lil P.S I didn't see any mention of there being fridges or anything in the big rooms... On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 01:20, Robert Kaye wrote: > Some more skinny on the two proposed hotels. > > Rokin review: > http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g188590-d264606-Reviews-Rokin_Hotel-Amsterdam_Noord_Holland.html > Rokin home page: > http://www.rokinhotel.com/home.html > > Avenue review: > http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g188590-d232325-Reviews-Avenue_Hotel-Amsterdam_Noord_Holland.html > > I think the Avenue hotel is the better one -- just by the star rating > alone. The reviews also speak more favorably of the Avenue. However, > both have really killer locations. > > The thing to consider for these arrangements is that a quad room is > nothing but a room with four beds in it. The couples will have no > privacy at all -- something to consider. > > Martin, Lue, Jean and myself might want to consider getting two doubles > to have a little privacy -- the cost is only 5 Euros more per night. -- lillian From zannie@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 09:41:59 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h98GfwTC028348 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:41:58 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <61848.206.159.99.37.1065631318.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1065601238.25665.228.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> References: <1065601238.25665.228.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 09:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Rokin & Avenue hotels From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 16:42:01 -0000 Works for me... Robert Kaye said: > Some more skinny on the two proposed hotels. > > Rokin review: > http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g188590-d264606-Reviews-Rokin_Hotel-Amsterdam_Noord_Holland.html > Rokin home page: > http://www.rokinhotel.com/home.html > > Avenue review: > http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g188590-d232325-Reviews-Avenue_Hotel-Amsterdam_Noord_Holland.html > > I think the Avenue hotel is the better one -- just by the star rating > alone. The reviews also speak more favorably of the Avenue. However, > both have really killer locations. > > The thing to consider for these arrangements is that a quad room is > nothing but a room with four beds in it. The couples will have no > privacy at all -- something to consider. > > Martin, Lue, Jean and myself might want to consider getting two doubles > to have a little privacy -- the cost is only 5 Euros more per night. > > > -- > > --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. > > Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From rob@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 10:15:49 2003 Received: from boobs.eorbit.net (boobs.eorbit.net [10.200.2.70]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h98HFnTD029869 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:15:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Rokin & Avenue hotels From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <1065628806.20952.233.camel@overlord> References: <1065601238.25665.228.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> <1065628806.20952.233.camel@overlord> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065633349.25662.232.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 10:15:49 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:15:50 -0000 On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 09:00, lillian wrote: > Hey, > > I'm easy on either of these. However, the couples/privacy issue Rob > brought up seems pretty valid. Maybe all of us need to split into two room pairs?? > P.S I didn't see any mention of there being fridges or anything in the > big rooms... With these low-star hotels you can expect to get pretty much nothing. No fridge (hard to keep cheese happy without a fridge), no real room amenities besides the very basic stuff. We'd be lucky if we get a bar of soap in the bathroom -- bring your own shampoo and conditioner. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From makosc@hotmail.com Wed Oct 8 11:41:06 2003 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f37.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.37]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h98If5TC000406 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:41:05 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:41:05 -0700 Received: from 24.205.229.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:41:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.205.229.117] X-Originating-Email: [makosc@hotmail.com] From: "Benjamin Mussen" To: ams@eorbit.net Subject: Re: [ams] Rokin & Avenue hotels Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 11:41:04 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2003 18:41:05.0182 (UTC) FILETIME=[BB017BE0:01C38DCB] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:41:09 -0000
    I'm pretty easy too folks.  But I'm trying to understand the bed arrangement for the rooms listed under the Avenue etc.  I'm assuming a Single room only has a single bed.  Does a Twin room only have a twin size bed or does it have two singles?  A Triple room?  three singles?  Quad room four singles?  Beuller?   Beuller? 
     
    Unless it is an apartment style room, I think four people in one room is a bit much.  Especially with only one shower and people wanting to crash at different times.
     
    Ben
     

    Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! From rob@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 11:42:37 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h98IgaTD000474 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:42:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel Quality? From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <1298.10.200.2.139.1065580054.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <1298.10.200.2.139.1065580054.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1065638555.2798.24.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 11:42:35 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:42:39 -0000 On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 19:27, Zannie wrote: > So I've just started researching the regular hotel route, and it looks > like this is a significantly cheaper way to go. I don't know if the ones > I'm looking at would be rat infested dens of disease, or just inexpensive. I don't think they have rat infested dens of disease in Amsterdam -- hotels, like the rest of the country, are usually pretty clean. Its more a question of noise, location and quality of beds. > Can anyone who's been (is that just Rob and Jean?) give me an opinion on > a hotel such as this one: > > http://www.amsterdam-holland-hotels.net/eden/hotel.htm Looks ok... > It's number 31 on this map: > > http://www.amsterdam-holland-hotels.net/amsterdam-map.htm > > Two quad rooms for 4 week nights and 4 weekend nights comes to 358.5 Euros I don't see how you arrived at 358.5. I see the quad rooms going for 230 - 240 Euro, which then comes to around 470 Euro or 58.75 Euro a night, which is just 7 Euro cheaper than the cush Monniken apartments. No matter, I think we should probably stick to the Avenue or Rokin hotels -- much more our price range. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From lillian@boojiboy.eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 11:43:33 2003 Received: from overlord (adsl-64-166-167-0.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [64.166.167.0]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h98IhVTD000520 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:43:32 -0700 From: lillian To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065639348.20957.241.camel@overlord> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 11:55:49 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Returning from A'dam X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:43:34 -0000 Yo, For those of you flying into SFO on the way home, how are you making the last leg to SLO? lil -- lillian From rob@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 11:46:04 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h98Ik3TD000685 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:46:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Returning from A'dam From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <1065639348.20957.241.camel@overlord> References: <1065639348.20957.241.camel@overlord> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1065638762.2799.28.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 11:46:02 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:46:04 -0000 On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 11:55, lillian wrote: > Yo, > > For those of you flying into SFO on the way home, how are you making the > last leg to SLO? We're all SLO <-> AMS <-> SLO. No one is flying just into SFO. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 11:46:50 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h98IknTC000754 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:46:49 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <62279.206.159.99.37.1065638809.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1065639348.20957.241.camel@overlord> References: <1065639348.20957.241.camel@overlord> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Returning from A'dam From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:46:50 -0000 lillian said: > Yo, > > For those of you flying into SFO on the way home, how are you making the > last leg to SLO? I think I was the only one really considering it, and I decided to go on the party plane, leaving from and returning to SBP, going through LAX. Zannie -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From rob@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 11:54:55 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h98IssTD001086 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:54:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Rokin & Avenue hotels From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1065639292.2798.39.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 11:54:53 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 18:54:59 -0000 On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 11:41, Benjamin Mussen wrote: > I'm pretty easy too folks. But I'm trying to understand the bed > arrangement for the rooms listed under the Avenue etc. I'm assuming a > Single room only has a single bed. Does a Twin room only have a twin > size bed or does it have two singles? A Triple room? three singles? > Quad room four singles? Beuller? Beuller? Single, double, triple and quad all refer to the number of people allowed in the room. I would guess that the quad room has four single beds, which could be scooted together to make a queen bed. > Unless it is an apartment style room, I think four people in one room > is a bit much. Especially with only one shower and people wanting to > crash at different times. Yes, indeed. The shower is a big deal -- that can slow us down a bit. The only downside I see to us taking 4 smaller rooms is that we will never be able to have all of us hang out in one room. No way that 10 people are going to fit into a twin room -- did I mention that rooms are _tiny_ in A'dam?? I think having one quad room might be a good idea, and I would not be opposed to having people from the quad room come over and use our shower to get out in a reasonable timeframe. As far as crashing at different times is concerned... In the past we have for the most part stayed up together as a group, but should some people want to go to sleep before others chances are that we won't need to have space for us all to hang out, and said person can kick everyone out and get some sleep. Lots of pros and cons to consider... -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 12:15:08 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h98JF8TC001962 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:15:08 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:15:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <62612.206.159.99.37.1065640508.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1065639292.2798.39.camel@cranky> References: <1065639292.2798.39.camel@cranky> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:15:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Rokin & Avenue hotels From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:15:10 -0000 Robert Kaye said: > The only downside I see to us taking 4 smaller rooms is that we will > never be able to have all of us hang out in one room. No way that 10 > people are going to fit into a twin room -- did I mention that rooms are > _tiny_ in A'dam?? I think I'd kinda like to have a place we could chill out together. If those in the double rooms don't mind having people go there to have some quiet time while other people hang out in the quad room, I think it would be alright--and I'm sure the hotel wouldn't know or care if we moved around between rooms even to sleep an entire night. Certainly the couples have reason to want the double rooms most of the time, but if two people need to crash out and the rest want to stay up, it seems reasonable that those two people could sleep in one of the doubles that night so they're not disturbed by the rest of us talking or tromping in late. But I don't want to speak for those who would be in the doubles. On the other hand, I can understand the need for privacy and more showers. I have a slight preference for having one quad room, but I'm cool with all doubles too. Zannie PS: Any chance we could pick up a disposable cooler and some ice for any accute cheese emergencies? -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From rob@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 12:50:52 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h98JopTD002905 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:50:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Rokin & Avenue hotels From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <62612.206.159.99.37.1065640508.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <1065639292.2798.39.camel@cranky> <62612.206.159.99.37.1065640508.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1065642650.2798.88.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 12:50:50 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:50:52 -0000 On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 12:15, Zannie wrote: > Certainly the couples > have reason to want the double rooms most of the time, but if two people > need to crash out and the rest want to stay up, it seems reasonable that > those two people could sleep in one of the doubles that night so they're > not disturbed by the rest of us talking or tromping in late. I think we can work something like that out -- we're all responsible adults, right? > PS: Any chance we could pick up a disposable cooler and some ice for any > accute cheese emergencies? Acute cheese emergency -- good term. I don't know about the disposable cooler, or even a real one. Might be hard to find in Northern Europe in late fall. I'm not sure if the Dutch know the term 'disposable'. :-) But, in the past I have overcome acute cheese emergencies by hanging a plastic bag with said cheese in it out the window. The outside temp was just about right to keep the cheese from rotting. :-) -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From lillian@boojiboy.eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 12:59:48 2003 Received: from overlord (adsl-64-166-167-0.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [64.166.167.0]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h98JxlTD003238 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:59:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Rokin & Avenue hotels From: lillian To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <1065642650.2798.88.camel@cranky> References: <1065639292.2798.39.camel@cranky> <62612.206.159.99.37.1065640508.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1065642650.2798.88.camel@cranky> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065643926.20952.314.camel@overlord> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 13:12:06 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 19:59:49 -0000 I'm on the wagon here... And regarding cheese emergencies (which are serious business in my book), do the hotels in A'dam have ice machines? I'm sure we could hack something together using blankets, plastic bags, trash cans and ice if a cooler or something similar can't be had. lil On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 12:50, Robert Kaye wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 12:15, Zannie wrote: > > Certainly the couples > > have reason to want the double rooms most of the time, but if two people > > need to crash out and the rest want to stay up, it seems reasonable that > > those two people could sleep in one of the doubles that night so they're > > not disturbed by the rest of us talking or tromping in late. > > I think we can work something like that out -- we're all responsible > adults, right? > > > PS: Any chance we could pick up a disposable cooler and some ice for any > > accute cheese emergencies? > > Acute cheese emergency -- good term. > > I don't know about the disposable cooler, or even a real one. Might be > hard to find in Northern Europe in late fall. I'm not sure if the Dutch > know the term 'disposable'. :-) > > But, in the past I have overcome acute cheese emergencies by hanging a > plastic bag with said cheese in it out the window. The outside temp was > just about right to keep the cheese from rotting. :-) -- lillian From elf@elf-design.com Wed Oct 8 13:01:00 2003 Received: from ezr.doomsong.net (adsl-209-204-169-17.sonic.net [209.204.169.17]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h98K0xTC003332 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:00:59 -0700 Received: by ezr.doomsong.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C32BE1C1B; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezr.doomsong.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06E31C17 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:00:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Erin Ferree X-X-Sender: elf@ezr.doomsong.net To: Amsterdam travel plans list Subject: Re: [ams] Rokin & Avenue hotels In-Reply-To: <1065642650.2798.88.camel@cranky> Message-ID: <20031008130002.L96013@ezr.doomsong.net> References: <1065639292.2798.39.camel@cranky> <62612.206.159.99.37.1065640508.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1065642650.2798.88.camel@cranky> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:01:00 -0000 > > PS: Any chance we could pick up a disposable cooler and some ice for any > > accute cheese emergencies? Now might be the perfect time to pick up a collapsible-walled cooler if you absolutely want one - you can get them in 6-pack size, which should handle just about any cheese. From zannie@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 13:10:27 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h98KAQTC003728 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:10:26 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <64877.206.159.99.37.1065643826.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:10:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] I just want to say.... X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:10:27 -0000 Strrooooooooooopwaaaaaaaaaffeeeeeeeeeeelllllll!!!!!!! From rob@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 13:15:20 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h98KFGTD003870 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:15:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] I just want to say.... From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <64877.206.159.99.37.1065643826.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <64877.206.159.99.37.1065643826.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1065644115.2585.90.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 13:15:15 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:15:25 -0000 On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 13:10, Zannie wrote: > Strrooooooooooopwaaaaaaaaaffeeeeeeeeeeelllllll!!!!!!! Only one??? Ok, I'll counter with: Wynand Foooooooooooooooooooooooooooooockink! -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From lillian@boojiboy.eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 13:22:45 2003 Received: from overlord (adsl-64-166-167-0.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [64.166.167.0]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h98KMiTD004090 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:22:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] I just want to say.... From: lillian To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <1065644115.2585.90.camel@cranky> References: <64877.206.159.99.37.1065643826.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1065644115.2585.90.camel@cranky> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065645302.20952.339.camel@overlord> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 13:35:02 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:22:46 -0000 I'm blond...I don't get it On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 13:15, Robert Kaye wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 13:10, Zannie wrote: > > Strrooooooooooopwaaaaaaaaaffeeeeeeeeeeelllllll!!!!!!! > > Only one??? > > Ok, I'll counter with: > > Wynand Foooooooooooooooooooooooooooooockink! -- lillian From rob@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 13:26:20 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h98KQKTD004187 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:26:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] I just want to say.... From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <1065645302.20952.339.camel@overlord> References: <64877.206.159.99.37.1065643826.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1065645302.20952.339.camel@overlord> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1065644778.2584.92.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 13:26:18 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:26:24 -0000 On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 13:35, lillian wrote: > I'm blond...I don't get it Stroopwafels are these delicious thin waffles wit syrup in the middle. Simply do die for. Wynand Fockink is the kick ass distillery... Our mouthes are just salivating, never mind us. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 13:29:07 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h98KT6TC004322 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:29:07 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <62406.206.159.99.37.1065644947.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1065645302.20952.339.camel@overlord> References: <64877.206.159.99.37.1065643826.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1065644115.2585.90.camel@cranky> <1065645302.20952.339.camel@overlord> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] I just want to say.... From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:29:10 -0000 Stroupwaffel is a heavenly, syrupy cookie meets waffle that you will undoubtedly be unable to eat just one of.... or even just one a day of.... I've never had them fresh, but I've had some that have been brought back from Amsterdam and they're gooooooooooooooooooooooooood!!! Wynand Fockink is a .... dammit I can's spell today, so be patient.... liqueur bar where Rob gets those specialty liqueurs. lillian said: > I'm blond...I don't get it > > On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 13:15, Robert Kaye wrote: >> On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 13:10, Zannie wrote: >> > Strrooooooooooopwaaaaaaaaaffeeeeeeeeeeelllllll!!!!!!! >> >> Only one??? >> >> Ok, I'll counter with: >> >> Wynand Foooooooooooooooooooooooooooooockink! > -- > lillian > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From rob@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 13:30:15 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h98KUETD004404 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 13:30:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Rokin & Avenue hotels From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <1065643926.20952.314.camel@overlord> References: <1065639292.2798.39.camel@cranky> <62612.206.159.99.37.1065640508.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1065643926.20952.314.camel@overlord> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1065645012.2584.95.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 13:30:13 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:30:15 -0000 On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 13:12, lillian wrote: > I'm on the wagon here... > > And regarding cheese emergencies (which are serious business in my > book), do the hotels in A'dam have ice machines? I'm sure we could hack > something together using blankets, plastic bags, trash cans and ice if a > cooler or something similar can't be had. No. Certainly not the smaller/cheap ones. Maybe the ones that cater to 'mericans... Remember, ice in drinks is pretty much only to be found at McD's and Burger King. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From luella@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 19:15:45 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h992FiTC014549 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:15:44 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2761.10.200.2.164.1065665744.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:15:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Luella Cruz" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] [Fwd: Re: your request for Hoksbergen] X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 02:15:45 -0000 ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Re: your request for Hoksbergen From: "BOOKINGS NL" Date: Wed, October 8, 2003 6:49 am To: luella@eorbit.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Luella Cruz, We are pleased to inform you that we can accept the booking as you requested. (IMPORTANT: The reservation has NOT been made yet! Next step is that you must accept the booking. Further details are given in this message.) -------------------------------------------------------- Description request -------------------------------------------------------- Room type: Apartment/familyroom Room rate 2003: 4 people EUR 120 Rate per self-catering apartment per night, excluding breakfast, including services and taxes Arrival: Saturday 22 November 2003 Departure: Sunday 30 November 2003 Number of nights: 8 Number of rooms: 2 Number of persons: 8 Preferred bed type: No preference Comments / Questions: For the preferred bed type, we would need to accommodations for 2 couples and 4 individuals. Either one room with a double in each and another room with singles, or two rooms with a double and 2 singles each. Thank you. Hotel Hoksbergen: AT THE MOMENT WE ARE WAITING FOR CONFIRMATION FOR 2 APARTMENTS FOR THE SAME NIGHTS. WE WILL GET CONFIRMATION OF THAT GUESTS BEFORE 10-10-2003. COULD YOU CONTACT US AGAIN ON INFO@HOTELHOKSBERGEN.NL IF YOU ARE PREPARED TO WAIT TILL THEN? IF IT WILL BE POSSIBLE THEN WE WILL ASK YOU FOR YOUR CREDITCARDNUMBER WITH EXPIRYDATE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. -------------------------------------------------------- You may accept the booking (within 24 hours) by clicking on the following link: http://www.bookings.org/nl/cgi-bin/accept?bn=13680900&pw=5783 (Booknumber: 13680900 Password: 5783) If your mail software is not linked to your browser, please start your browser and go to the given URL. Please note that the room(s) will not be held available. If you want this offer please accept as soon as possible. If you have any questions don't hesitate to send a message to BOOKINGS NL. With kind regards, Hoksbergen hotelrequests Rev: 1.35 From luella@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 19:15:53 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h992FrTC014583 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:15:53 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2763.10.200.2.164.1065665753.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:15:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Luella Cruz" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] [Fwd: RE: Booking Request through Bookings.nl] X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 02:15:54 -0000 ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: RE: Booking Request through Bookings.nl From: "Reserveringen" Date: Wed, October 8, 2003 3:37 am To: "'Luella Cruz'" -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Mrs Cruz, We hereby confirm you that the Avenue Hotel is holding the following reservation: Arrival : 22 November 2003 Departure : 30 November 2003 Accommodation : 2 x 4-personrooms Rate : Euro 160,63 (mind, avarage rate) per room per night, including breakfast and excluding 5% City tax. Res. number : 91992 Your reservation is still optional and should be guaranteed by sending credit card details within 24 hours. If we have not received this iformation the reservation will be cancelled automatically. When your reservation is confirmed by credit card details and can be cancelled without costs more thatn 24 hours before the arraval date. If later the hotel has the right to charge the credit card for the first night, for both room in full. Due to safety regulation it is not allowed to have visitors int the room between 22.00 hours and 07.00 hours. Visitors can not make use of the facilities offered with this booking. The Quad room concists out of four single beds in one room, en suite. We trust to have informed you sufficiently and are looking forward to welcoming you to the Avenue Hotel. If, however you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Yours sincerely, AVENUE HOTEL Esther Das Reservations > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Luella Cruz [SMTP:luella@eorbit.net] > Verzonden: woensdag 8 oktober 2003 9:56 > Aan: info@avenue-hotel.nl > Onderwerp: Booking Request through Bookings.nl > > Booking ID: 13680826 > > There is a change on the Arrival Date. The correct date is Saturday, November 22nd 2003. The Departure Date is still the same, November 30th 2003. Will you still be able to meet the request? > > Do you accept visitors for those staying at the hotel? > > Can I receive a description of the layout of the Quad room? Is it 4 beds in one room, or separate rooms with beds? > > What are the hours for the breakfast buffet? > > Thank you. > > Luella Cruz From luella@eorbit.net Wed Oct 8 19:16:00 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h992G0TC014625 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:16:00 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2765.10.200.2.164.1065665760.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:16:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Luella Cruz" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] [Fwd: Re: your request for Hotel De Gerstekorrel] X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 02:16:00 -0000 ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Re: your request for Hotel De Gerstekorrel From: "BOOKINGS NL" Date: Wed, October 8, 2003 1:20 am To: luella@eorbit.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Luella Cruz, We are pleased to inform you that we can accept the booking as you requested. (IMPORTANT: The reservation has NOT been made yet! Next step is that you must accept the booking. Further details are given in this message.) -------------------------------------------------------- Description request -------------------------------------------------------- Room type: Quad Room Four persons room with private shower and toilet, TV, telephone Room rate: EUR 159 (15th March - 16th November 2003) Rate per room per night excluding breakfast (EUR 7.50 p.p.p.n.) and city tax (5%) Minimum 5 nights during New Year Arrival: Saturday 22 November 2003 Departure: Sunday 30 November 2003 Number of nights: 8 Number of rooms: 2 Number of persons: 8 Preferred bed type: No preference Comments / Questions: For the preferred bed type, we would need to accommodations for 2 couples and 4 individuals. Either one room with a double in each and another room with singles, or two rooms with a double and 2 singles each. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------- The total costs of your reservation will be: EUR 2544 Costs are excluding breakfast and city/tourist tax. In all quad rooms we have 4 separate beds. You may accept the booking (within 24 hours) by clicking on the following link: http://www.bookings.org/nl/cgi-bin/accept?bn=13680899&pw=6103 (Booknumber: 13680899 Password: 6103) If your mail software is not linked to your browser, please start your browser and go to the given URL. Please note that the room(s) will not be held available. If you want this offer please accept as soon as possible. If you have any questions don't hesitate to send a message to BOOKINGS NL. With kind regards, Hotel De Gerstekorrel hotelrequests Rev: 1.35 From lillian@boojiboy.eorbit.net Thu Oct 9 10:04:24 2003 Received: from overlord (adsl-64-166-167-0.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [64.166.167.0]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h99H4MTD032719 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:04:22 -0700 From: lillian To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065719814.20952.356.camel@overlord> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 10:16:54 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Good News! X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:04:26 -0000 Hey, I just found out that my work trip to Seattle has been put off until after the first of the year, so now I'll be able to be on a closer travel schedule as everyone else, including leaving on the 21st. So, could someone send me their final itinerary (SLO->LA->AMS etc.) so I can try to get on the party plane? lil -- lillian From zannie@eorbit.net Thu Oct 9 10:08:46 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h99H8jTC000431 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:08:45 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <62417.206.159.99.37.1065719325.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1065719814.20952.356.camel@overlord> References: <1065719814.20952.356.camel@overlord> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Good News! From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;charset=iso-8859-1; boundary="----=_20031009100845_83559" X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:08:49 -0000 ------=_20031009100845_83559 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit lillian said: > So, could someone send me their final itinerary (SLO->LA->AMS etc.) so I > can try to get on the party plane? Jean, Ben, Dan and I are on the attached flight. Martin and Lu are on a flight that leaves later that day--4:00 or so--and I think goes through SF, and then shares the last leg of this itinerary, from London to AMS. Zannie -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson ------=_20031009100845_83559 Content-Type: text/html; name="confirmation.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="confirmation.html"
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    ------=_20031009100845_83559-- From lillian@boojiboy.eorbit.net Thu Oct 9 13:37:21 2003 Received: from overlord (adsl-64-166-167-0.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [64.166.167.0]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h99KbKTD009120 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:37:21 -0700 From: lillian To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065732596.20954.360.camel@overlord> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:49:56 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] SMS/Tri-band phones? X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 20:37:22 -0000 Hey, A few of us had discussed getting (or at least looking into) cheap pre-paid phones to use in A'dam. Anyone thought any more about this? Rob, since you have (or have used) these types of phones before, could you perhaps make some suggestions regarding features/brands/places to shop/etc.? lil -- lillian From rob@eorbit.net Thu Oct 9 15:59:03 2003 Received: from eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h99Mx2TC013952 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:59:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:59:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] SMS/Tri-band phones? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <1065732596.20954.360.camel@overlord> Message-Id: <2CBBE902-FAAC-11D7-927F-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 22:59:03 -0000 On Thursday, October 9, 2003, at 01:49 PM, lillian wrote: > Hey, > > A few of us had discussed getting (or at least looking into) cheap > pre-paid phones to use in A'dam. Anyone thought any more about this? > Rob, since you have (or have used) these types of phones before, could > you perhaps make some suggestions regarding features/brands/places to > shop/etc.? Just about any functioning GSM will do -- we just need to place calls and send SMS messages. Check out this article for some info: http://drawbridgetoeurope.com/digest/vol-II/article1.htm There are a few things for us to consider: 1. Does it have a charger than can work on 220V? 2. Does it work on the right bands? A tri-band phone will work everywhere. 3. Is it SIM unlocked? Notes: - European GSM uses GSM 900/GSM 1800 (900Mhz and 1.8Ghz) - SIM locking is done by cell providers who subsidize the cost of the phone. They want to make sure that you don't buy a cheap phone from them and then run off to the competition to use it there. So, the phone will only accept SIM cards for certain networks that are run by or affiliated with the network of the company that sold you the phone. Now, as far as where to get a phone -- that is hard. I've just bought a phone before the simlock craze started and I've had that ever since. Thing is, unlike here in the states phones are not thrown out once you get a new one. It gets passed on to someone else until its dead. Even crummy used phones can cost serious $$$. :-( > -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Thu Oct 9 16:08:38 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h99N8cTC014540 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:08:38 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <62921.206.159.99.37.1065740918.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <2CBBE902-FAAC-11D7-927F-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> References: <1065732596.20954.360.camel@overlord> <2CBBE902-FAAC-11D7-927F-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] SMS/Tri-band phones? From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 23:08:38 -0000 Robert Kaye said: > Even crummy used phones can cost serious $$$. :-( It was worth it to me to pay the 50 pounds for a SIM locked phone when I was in London for 5+ months and staying in the same country where I knew the phone would always have at least a chance of service. I don't think it would be worth the money to buy any phone for just a week. I'd have to be doing far more frequent travel to Europe to justify the cost. My two cents. Zannie -- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -- Thomas Jefferson From lillian@boojiboy.eorbit.net Thu Oct 9 19:48:08 2003 Received: from overlord (adsl-64-166-167-0.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [64.166.167.0]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9A2m7TD019941 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:48:07 -0700 From: lillian To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065754847.20954.365.camel@overlord> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 20:00:47 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Party Flight! X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 02:48:08 -0000 Ok, All arrangements are now set and I'm on the party flight to and from A'dam, sharing the Jean/Ben/Dan/Zannie itinerary, so now everyone has tickets, right? I think I was the last one... lil -- lillian From jean@eorbit.net Fri Oct 10 08:18:21 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9AFILTC003222 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:18:21 -0700 Received: from 63.194.126.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jean) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1067.63.194.126.18.1065799101.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1065754847.20954.365.camel@overlord> References: <1065754847.20954.365.camel@overlord> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Party Flight! From: jean@eorbit.net To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:18:22 -0000 > Ok, > > All arrangements are now set and I'm on the party flight to and from > A'dam, sharing the Jean/Ben/Dan/Zannie itinerary, so now everyone has > tickets, right? I think I was the last one... > FUCK YES PARTY PEOPLE!!!!!! We officially roll deep out tha country y'all! First round at Spirit of San Luis is on me! wheeee!!!!!!!!!! From luella@eorbit.net Sun Oct 12 14:18:37 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9CLIbTC007902 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:18:37 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2496.10.200.2.164.1065993517.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:18:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Luella Cruz" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Hotels to choose from... X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:18:38 -0000 Hello Everyone!! Two reservations have been made. One to Hotel Hoksbergen and the other to Rokin Hotel. Now it's up to you to make the choice. Here's the websites: www.rokinhotel.com/home.html www.hotelhoksbergen.nl =Þ Luella From rob@eorbit.net Sun Oct 12 14:38:47 2003 Received: from eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9CLclTC008180 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:38:47 -0700 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 14:38:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Hotels to choose from... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <2496.10.200.2.164.1065993517.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Message-Id: <75BDF43B-FCFC-11D7-918B-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:38:47 -0000 On Sunday, October 12, 2003, at 02:18 PM, Luella Cruz wrote: > Two reservations have been made. One to Hotel Hoksbergen and the other > to > Rokin Hotel. Now it's up to you to make the choice. Here's the > websites: Why did we make two reservations? Because Luella found a really kick ass deal on an apartment after we made the Rokin reservations. (The Rokin reservations were made because the Avenue Hotel only had 120 Euro/night doubles available for us -- eeek!) > www.rokinhotel.com/home.html At the Rokin we have reservations for two 83 Euro doubles and one 150 Euro quad. Good location, reasonable hotel and all that. > www.hotelhoksbergen.nl Hotel Hoksbergen had listed a family room/apartment with sleeping space for four people. A double bed in the living room and two single beds in a seperate bedroom -- all for 120 Euros a night per apartment!!! The apartments are fully furnished with a complete kitchen: http://home.hetnet.nl/~hoks1/toppage11.htm (You'll get this page if you click on the apartments link from the hotelhoksbergen.nl page) We have the top floor and 3rd floor apartment reserved at the moment. This is pretty much everything we ever wanted -- a really good location and a cheap price. Plenty of space for us all to hang out and no stupid hideway couches. Beds for everyone. Take a look and let us know what you think... -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From lillian@boojiboy.eorbit.net Sun Oct 12 17:31:17 2003 Received: from overlord (adsl-64-166-167-0.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [64.166.167.0]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9D0VGTD010974 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:31:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Hotels to choose from... From: lillian To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <75BDF43B-FCFC-11D7-918B-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> References: <75BDF43B-FCFC-11D7-918B-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066005886.31292.0.camel@overlord> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:44:47 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 00:31:18 -0000 Hey, The apts look good...they certainly solve our cheese emergency issues ;-) lil On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 14:38, Robert Kaye wrote: > On Sunday, October 12, 2003, at 02:18 PM, Luella Cruz wrote: > > Two reservations have been made. One to Hotel Hoksbergen and the other > > to > > Rokin Hotel. Now it's up to you to make the choice. Here's the > > websites: > > > Why did we make two reservations? Because Luella found a really kick > ass deal on an apartment after we made the Rokin reservations. (The > Rokin reservations were made because the Avenue Hotel only had 120 > Euro/night doubles available for us -- eeek!) > > > www.rokinhotel.com/home.html > > At the Rokin we have reservations for two 83 Euro doubles and one 150 > Euro quad. Good location, reasonable hotel and all that. > > > www.hotelhoksbergen.nl > > Hotel Hoksbergen had listed a family room/apartment with sleeping space > for four people. A double bed in the living room and two single beds in > a seperate bedroom -- all for 120 Euros a night per apartment!!! The > apartments are fully furnished with a complete kitchen: > > http://home.hetnet.nl/~hoks1/toppage11.htm > > (You'll get this page if you click on the apartments link from the > hotelhoksbergen.nl page) > > We have the top floor and 3rd floor apartment reserved at the moment. > This is pretty much everything we ever wanted -- a really good location > and a cheap price. Plenty of space for us all to hang out and no stupid > hideway couches. Beds for everyone. > > Take a look and let us know what you think... > > > -- > > --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. > > Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams -- lillian From zannie@eorbit.net Mon Oct 13 01:16:13 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9D8GCTC018058 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 01:16:12 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.139 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 01:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4999.10.200.2.139.1066032972.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <75BDF43B-FCFC-11D7-918B-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> References: <2496.10.200.2.164.1065993517.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <75BDF43B-FCFC-11D7-918B-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 01:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Hotels to choose from... From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:16:13 -0000 I say go for the Hoksbergen, if the decision is still up in the air. Robert Kaye said: >> www.hotelhoksbergen.nl > > Hotel Hoksbergen had listed a family room/apartment with sleeping space > for four people. A double bed in the living room and two single beds in > a seperate bedroom -- all for 120 Euros a night per apartment!!! The > apartments are fully furnished with a complete kitchen: > > http://home.hetnet.nl/~hoks1/toppage11.htm > > (You'll get this page if you click on the apartments link from the > hotelhoksbergen.nl page) > > We have the top floor and 3rd floor apartment reserved at the moment. > This is pretty much everything we ever wanted -- a really good location > and a cheap price. Plenty of space for us all to hang out and no stupid > hideway couches. Beds for everyone. > > Take a look and let us know what you think... From zannie@eorbit.net Mon Oct 13 01:26:10 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9D8QATC018283 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 01:26:10 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.139 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 01:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1067.10.200.2.139.1066033570.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <4999.10.200.2.139.1066032972.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <2496.10.200.2.164.1065993517.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <75BDF43B-FCFC-11D7-918B-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> <4999.10.200.2.139.1066032972.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 01:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Hotels to choose from... From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:26:11 -0000 And by the way, if a decision must be made and I "cannot be reached for comment" or whatever, I'm fine with other people making decisions. I trust everyone to do their best to make the best decisions for everyone. And many, many thanks to Rob and Lu for doing so much legwork on this! Some kind of intoxicant's on me! After the accomodations are settled, that's pretty much it, right? Zannie Zannie said: > I say go for the Hoksbergen, if the decision is still up in the air. From rob@eorbit.net Mon Oct 13 01:55:49 2003 Received: from boobs.eorbit.net (boobs.eorbit.net [10.200.2.70]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9D8tnTD018710 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 01:55:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Hotels to choose from... From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <1067.10.200.2.139.1066033570.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <2496.10.200.2.164.1065993517.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <75BDF43B-FCFC-11D7-918B-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> <4999.10.200.2.139.1066032972.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1067.10.200.2.139.1066033570.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066035349.19750.58.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 01:55:49 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 08:55:50 -0000 On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 01:26, Zannie wrote: > And by the way, if a decision must be made and I "cannot be reached for > comment" or whatever, I'm fine with other people making decisions. I > trust everyone to do their best to make the best decisions for everyone. We just decided to play it safe and get two reservations. I also haven't heard anything from Dan yet -- I need to go bug him and get his feedback on things. > And many, many thanks to Rob and Lu for doing so much legwork on this! > Some kind of intoxicant's on me! Lu is the real star in this affair! She found the killer apartments... > After the accomodations are settled, that's pretty much it, right? Yup. All we have to do is cancel one reservation and wait. Then pack. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From lillian@boojiboy.eorbit.net Wed Oct 15 12:04:17 2003 Received: from overlord (adsl-63-196-194-187.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.196.194.187]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9FJ4ETD002595 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:04:15 -0700 From: lillian To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066245513.31218.6.camel@overlord> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:18:33 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Hotel or Apartment? X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:04:19 -0000 Soooooo, What got decided about our lodgings in A'dam? Anything? I haven't seen (or heard) any more discussions about them, so I thought I'd ask. Rob, did you ever find out how Dan felt about the most recent choices? lil -- "I'm telling you what I'm telling you. Don't try to make life a mathematics problem with yourself in the center and everything coming out equal. When you are good, bad things can still happen. And if you are bad, you can still be lucky." Barbara Kingsolver - "The Poisonwood Bible" From zannie@eorbit.net Wed Oct 15 12:08:32 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9FJ8VTC002763 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:08:31 -0700 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <64743.206.159.99.37.1066244911.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1066245513.31218.6.camel@overlord> References: <1066245513.31218.6.camel@overlord> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel or Apartment? From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:08:36 -0000 lillian said: > Soooooo, > > What got decided about our lodgings in A'dam? Anything? I haven't seen > (or heard) any more discussions about them, so I thought I'd ask. Rob, > did you ever find out how Dan felt about the most recent choices? We went for the apartment. I talked to Dan about it, and just as I expected, he said, basically, "Sounds great. Whatever decisions need to be made, make them, even if you don't get a chance to ask me." He's really busy with school and work and pain, so I think it's actually easier for him to just let other people deal with this kind of stuff where we can. He doesn't need the extra stress. Zannie -- Anything I've ever done that ultimately was worthwhile initially scared me to death. --Betty Bender From rob@eorbit.net Wed Oct 15 12:13:55 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9FJDsTD003006 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:13:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel or Apartment? From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <1066245513.31218.6.camel@overlord> References: <1066245513.31218.6.camel@overlord> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1066245232.3820.11.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:13:52 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:13:56 -0000 On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 12:18, lillian wrote: > Soooooo, > > What got decided about our lodgings in A'dam? Anything? I haven't seen > (or heard) any more discussions about them, so I thought I'd ask. Rob, > did you ever find out how Dan felt about the most recent choices? Ooops. Sorry for not updating you sooner. Its was unanimous to go for the apartment, so we cancelled the Rokin reservations. This should be fun.. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From lillian@boojiboy.eorbit.net Wed Oct 15 12:46:33 2003 Received: from overlord (adsl-63-196-194-187.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.196.194.187]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9FJkWTD004138 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:46:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel or Apartment? From: lillian To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <1066245232.3820.11.camel@cranky> References: <1066245513.31218.6.camel@overlord> <1066245232.3820.11.camel@cranky> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066248052.31292.8.camel@overlord> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:00:52 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:46:34 -0000 Hey, No worries; I was just wrapping up loose ends and wanted to put that one to rest. lil On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 12:13, Robert Kaye wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 12:18, lillian wrote: > > Soooooo, > > > > What got decided about our lodgings in A'dam? Anything? I haven't seen > > (or heard) any more discussions about them, so I thought I'd ask. Rob, > > did you ever find out how Dan felt about the most recent choices? > > Ooops. Sorry for not updating you sooner. > > Its was unanimous to go for the apartment, so we cancelled the Rokin > reservations. > > This should be fun.. -- lillian From dan@eorbit.net Wed Oct 15 13:34:52 2003 Received: from mango4v7fy9v9c ([10.200.2.128]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9FKYqTC005757 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:34:52 -0700 Message-ID: <006f01c3935b$c8fbad70$8002c80a@mango4v7fy9v9c> From: "Dan Gross" To: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:34:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01C39321.1C93ADB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] A'dam stuff X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:34:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C39321.1C93ADB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy all, Just wanted to drop in and tell you exactly what Zannie said before, but = from the horses mouth (I guess that makes me a horse). Any decisions to = be made about A'dam can be made without me if I'm not readily available = (or even if I am). I can't imagine being dissappointed with anything = the group decides. That said, I feel a bit guilty about not being a = more active participant in the planning phase of the trip. If there is = anything I can do to help out please let me know. If I'm too physically = fried to do it I'll let you know, but would like to help out when I'm = able. Many thanks to everyone who has been working on the trip thus = far. :) Dan ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C39321.1C93ADB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Howdy all,
     
    Just wanted to drop in and tell you = exactly what=20 Zannie said before, but from the horses mouth (I guess that makes me a=20 horse).  Any decisions to be made about A'dam can be made without = me if I'm=20 not readily available (or even if I am).  I can't imagine being=20 dissappointed with anything the group decides.  That said, I feel a = bit=20 guilty about not being a more active participant in the planning phase = of the=20 trip.  If there is anything I can do to help out please let me = know. =20 If I'm too physically fried to do it I'll let you know, but would like = to help=20 out when I'm able.  Many thanks to everyone who has been working on = the=20 trip thus far.  :) Dan
    ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C39321.1C93ADB0-- From luella@eorbit.net Wed Oct 15 17:36:34 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9G0aYTC014370 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:36:34 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2832.10.200.2.164.1066264594.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:36:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Luella Cruz" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Hotel Hokesbergen X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:36:35 -0000 Here's the info on the hotel if anyone was curious... Enjoy!! ----------------------------------------------- Date of arrival: 22. november 2003 Check-in time: Please check in between 08.00-22.00 o'clock at Hotel Hoksbergen at 200 meter of our Gasthuismolensteeg 10 apartment house. Apartments are ready around 14.00 o'clock. We kindly request you to settle your bill at arrival. Ways of payment pls see below. Date of departure: 30. november 2003 Check-out time: 10.30 o'clock, but you can leave your luggage at Hotel Hoksbergen as long as you wish Number of nights: 8 Type of apartment: 2 apartments for 4 persons with private bath/wc/television/fully fournished open kitchen (self-catering, no phone) Price per apt per night: EUR 120,00 Total bill: EUR 960 x 2 = Euro 1920,00 Guarantee: Creditcardnumber of Mr. Robert Kaye received by fax, thank you very much. Contactpersons: Xia/Bruno/Bert 1 - Transportation to our hotel by public transport and by car, and approximate prices: * From the airport 'Schiphol': (1) Taxi to hotel: EUR 35,00 (FIXED PRICE WITH TCA). (2) Airport Hotel Shuttle from gate A7 to NH - City-Centre-Hotel - Spui, 200 meters from us: EUR 10,00. (3) Train to train-station: EUR 4,- p p * From train-station to hotel: (1) Taxi EUR 7,50. (2) Tram 1, 2 or 5: 3rd stop called 'Spui' EUR 1,70 2 - The credit-card you have given just serves as a guarantee. You can pay your bill also in other ways. If you wish to pay your bill with credit-card please note that we will have to charge you 5% extra as administration-costs. We accept traveller's checks in EURO without extra costs. 3 - Reservations are made following the Uniform Conditions of the Federation Horeca. Which means that if you unfortunately have to cancel the res, the costs are 0% of the price of 1 night if have to you cancel up to 2 weeks before arrival, 50% of 1 night if you have to cancel between 2 weeks and 1 week before arrival, 80% of 1 night if you have to cancel between 1 week and 48 hours before arrival, and 100% of 1 night after 48 hours before arrival. ------------------------------------------------ From zannie@eorbit.net Wed Oct 15 18:32:00 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9G1VxTC015554 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:31:59 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.139 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2125.10.200.2.139.1066267919.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <2832.10.200.2.164.1066264594.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <2832.10.200.2.164.1066264594.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel Hokesbergen From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 01:32:01 -0000 Luella Cruz said: > Here's the info on the hotel if anyone was curious... > We kindly request you to settle your bill at arrival. Ways of payment pls > see below. > Price per apt per night: EUR 120,00 > Total bill: EUR 960 x 2 = Euro 1920,00 > 2 - The credit-card you have given just serves as a guarantee. You can pay > your bill also in other ways. If you wish to pay your bill with > credit-card please note that we will have to charge you 5% extra as > administration-costs. We accept traveller's checks in EURO without extra > costs. So we owe 240 Euro apiece. Would it be easiest if we all got traveler's checks? Or if we all give money to one person to get traveler's checks? I wonder if the 5% credit card fee (96 Euro) would end up being less than the "screw you on the exchange rate" crap you get sometimes when changing money? Other thoughts on paying the bill? Zannie -- Anything I've ever done that ultimately was worthwhile initially scared me to death. --Betty Bender From rob@eorbit.net Mon Oct 20 14:18:41 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9KLIeTD021890 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:18:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel Hoksbergen From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <2125.10.200.2.139.1066267919.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <2832.10.200.2.164.1066264594.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <2125.10.200.2.139.1066267919.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1066684716.13649.84.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:18:36 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:18:42 -0000 On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 18:31, Zannie wrote: > So we owe 240 Euro apiece. Would it be easiest if we all got traveler's > checks? Or if we all give money to one person to get traveler's checks? > I wonder if the 5% credit card fee (96 Euro) would end up being less than > the "screw you on the exchange rate" crap you get sometimes when changing > money? Other thoughts on paying the bill? 5% is a bit much for the credit card surcharge. There are a few things for us to consider: 1. Is everyone prepared to pay cash before hand? Or do some people need to put the room on plastic? 2. Luella: Can you get travellers checks in Euro?? If so, are there any fees? If not all the people can pay for the room up front, I could just plunk it down on my card and have people pay me back when we return. (Then again, I won't be there for the first night -- so it may need to be someone else's card. Fuss.) We could get travellers checks in the right amount and pay that way. That might be the easiest thing to do if everyone can pay ahead of time. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From mako@eorbit.net Mon Oct 20 14:47:41 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9KLlfTC023041 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:47:41 -0700 Received: from 66.122.74.52 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mako) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1790.66.122.74.52.1066686461.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1066684716.13649.84.camel@cranky> References: <2832.10.200.2.164.1066264594.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <2125.10.200.2.139.1066267919.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1066684716.13649.84.camel@cranky> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel Hoksbergen From: mako@eorbit.net To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:47:43 -0000 I can either pay someone else cash before hand or I'm more than willing to throw the rooms on my credit card when we get there. Then just take of it when we get back. Ben > On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 18:31, Zannie wrote: >> So we owe 240 Euro apiece. Would it be easiest if we all got traveler's >> checks? Or if we all give money to one person to get traveler's checks? >> I wonder if the 5% credit card fee (96 Euro) would end up being less >> than >> the "screw you on the exchange rate" crap you get sometimes when >> changing >> money? Other thoughts on paying the bill? > > 5% is a bit much for the credit card surcharge. > > There are a few things for us to consider: > > 1. Is everyone prepared to pay cash before hand? Or do some people need > to put the room on plastic? > 2. Luella: Can you get travellers checks in Euro?? If so, are there any > fees? > > If not all the people can pay for the room up front, I could just plunk > it down on my card and have people pay me back when we return. (Then > again, I won't be there for the first night -- so it may need to be > someone else's card. Fuss.) > > We could get travellers checks in the right amount and pay that way. > That might be the easiest thing to do if everyone can pay ahead of time. > > -- > > --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. > > Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > From luella@eorbit.net Wed Oct 22 00:06:59 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9M76xTC010601 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:06:59 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2016.10.200.2.164.1066806419.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1066684716.13649.84.camel@cranky> References: <2832.10.200.2.164.1066264594.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <2125.10.200.2.139.1066267919.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1066684716.13649.84.camel@cranky> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel Hoksbergen From: "Luella Cruz" To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:07:01 -0000 Robert Kaye said: > There are a few things for us to consider: > > 1. Is everyone prepared to pay cash before hand? Or do some people need > to put the room on plastic? > 2. Luella: Can you get travellers checks in Euro?? If so, are there any > fees? I can get travelers cheques in foreign currency or even foreign currency via US Postal Service, 2-day or overnight delivery. I'll have to find out if the little bank I work for will be able to waive anything since typically these fees are kicked down by AMEX, so most likely these fees won't be waived. Either way, from what my little handy dandy schedule of fees tell me, the cost would be face value and $7.50 per order plus the express delivery charges. Personally I would prefer travelers cheques since that shit is insured if they're lost/stolen/whatever...than cold hard cash. ~ lu From zannie@eorbit.net Wed Oct 22 00:33:37 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9M7XaTC011529 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:33:36 -0700 Received: from 10.200.2.139 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4673.10.200.2.139.1066808016.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1066684716.13649.84.camel@cranky> References: <2832.10.200.2.164.1066264594.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <2125.10.200.2.139.1066267919.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1066684716.13649.84.camel@cranky> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel Hoksbergen From: "Zannie" To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:33:39 -0000 Robert Kaye said: > There are a few things for us to consider: > > 1. Is everyone prepared to pay cash before hand? Or do some people need > to put the room on plastic? > 2. Luella: Can you get travellers checks in Euro?? If so, are there any > fees? I'm pretty sure I'll be able to pay up front. That's the plan, anyway. If I'm interpreting Luella's mail correctly, we'll cut down on processing fees by pooling our money and getting them all in one transaction? Is that correct? Should we bring traveler's checks for spending money too, or is it easy to withdraw money from ATMs there? Never had any trouble in England, France or the Czech Republic, but I guess you never know about these things unless you've been... Zannie -- Anything I've ever done that ultimately was worthwhile initially scared me to death. --Betty Bender From lillian@boojiboy.eorbit.net Wed Oct 22 09:05:35 2003 Received: from overlord (adsl-63-196-194-42.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.196.194.42]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9MG5YTD022908 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:05:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel Hoksbergen From: lillian To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <4673.10.200.2.139.1066808016.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <2832.10.200.2.164.1066264594.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <2125.10.200.2.139.1066267919.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1066684716.13649.84.camel@cranky> <4673.10.200.2.139.1066808016.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066839711.31218.109.camel@overlord> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:21:51 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:05:36 -0000 > Should we bring traveler's checks for spending money too, or is it easy to > withdraw money from ATMs there? Never had any trouble in England, France > or the Czech Republic, but I guess you never know about these things > unless you've been... My understanding from a previous conversation on this topic was that ATM's are the way to go. Just check the ATM network your bank uses and see if they are available (or share a network that is available) in A'dam. Many ATM networks provide ATM locations online. lil P.S. Don't know how the "paying for the apartments" topic is shaping up though... lil -- lillian From rob@eorbit.net Wed Oct 22 13:25:05 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9MKP3TD002010 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:25:03 -0700 From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1066854302.2614.44.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:25:02 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Mobiles in A'dam X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:25:05 -0000 Ok, so far Andre and Ollie have ponied up two used Nokia 8210 phones. That brings us up to 4 phones so far -- not bad. I may bid one some phones on ebay.de to round that out a bit. Current plans are to ship the phones so that they arrive the day before us at the Hotel Hoksbergen, so they are available right as you check in. That will also make picking me up easier and will allow me to find out that you guys arrived safe and sound... -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From rob@eorbit.net Wed Oct 22 13:36:20 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9MKaKTD002438 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:36:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel Hoksbergen From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <4673.10.200.2.139.1066808016.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <2832.10.200.2.164.1066264594.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <2125.10.200.2.139.1066267919.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1066684716.13649.84.camel@cranky> <4673.10.200.2.139.1066808016.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1066854975.2614.48.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:36:15 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:36:21 -0000 On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 00:33, Zannie wrote: > If I'm interpreting Luella's mail correctly, we'll cut down on processing > fees by pooling our money and getting them all in one transaction? Is > that correct? Yes. > Should we bring traveler's checks for spending money too, or is it easy to > withdraw money from ATMs there? All the ATMs there work great. However, there is one caveat to consider. We're arriving two weeks before their xmas and shopping is in high gear. This means that long lines at ATM machines are to be expected on weekends and evenings. Some ATMs will SIMPLY BE OUT OF MONEY, and finding enough ATMs to withdraw enough cash to cover the hotel will be difficult at best. Thus, travellers checks and/or credit cards are best for this purpose. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From rob@eorbit.net Wed Oct 22 13:37:52 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-63-201-0-114.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.201.0.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9MKbpTD002507 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:37:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel Hoksbergen From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <1066839711.31218.109.camel@overlord> References: <2832.10.200.2.164.1066264594.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <2125.10.200.2.139.1066267919.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1066684716.13649.84.camel@cranky> <4673.10.200.2.139.1066808016.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1066839711.31218.109.camel@overlord> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1066855070.2614.51.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:37:50 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:37:54 -0000 On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 09:21, lillian wrote: > P.S. Don't know how the "paying for the apartments" topic is shaping up > though... Let's just turn it around -- is there anyone here who cannot pay for the hotel in advance??? Can pay: Zannie, Rob, Jean -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From rob@eorbit.net Fri Oct 24 00:21:56 2003 Received: from boobs.eorbit.net (boobs.eorbit.net [10.200.2.70]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9O7LuTD029515 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2003 00:21:56 -0700 From: Robert Kaye To: ams@boojiboy.eorbit.net Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1066980116.24570.8.camel@boobs.eorbit.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 00:21:56 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Weather update X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 07:21:58 -0000 Have you guys been following the weather in A'dam?? Its rainy and cold. :-( http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/NLXX0002_f.html Looks like the rains are light, so that is not too bad. But Andre commented that this morning it was freezing (0C) in Hamburg. This is consistent with our trip to A'dam/Hamburg in 97 or 98 after the last big El Nino, where we saw a -8C in A'dam. This year we had a smaller El Nino and I expect the weather to suck. :-( Jean, wanna comment on the weather that first year?? ;-) What I am saying is that Zannie, Jean and Lue should be prepared to cover every inch of skin, short of the eyeballs. Thermal underwear is required! Gloves, hat/beanie, scarf (or scarf tube, which is different from a feeding tube), are a must. Earmuffs might be wise too. :-) Just trying to prepare you guys mentally, because 95% humidity near freezing is just plain unpleasant -- trust me. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From luella@eorbit.net Wed Nov 5 09:24:07 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hA5HO6TC029922 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:24:06 -0800 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:24:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1261.10.200.2.164.1068053046.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1066855070.2614.51.camel@cranky> References: <2832.10.200.2.164.1066264594.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <2125.10.200.2.139.1066267919.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1066684716.13649.84.camel@cranky> <4673.10.200.2.139.1066808016.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1066839711.31218.109.camel@overlord> <1066855070.2614.51.camel@cranky> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:24:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel Hoksbergen From: "Luella Cruz" To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:24:07 -0000 Robert Kaye said: > On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 09:21, lillian wrote: >> P.S. Don't know how the "paying for the apartments" topic is shaping up >> though... > > Let's just turn it around -- is there anyone here who cannot pay for the > hotel in advance??? Well I take it that everyone can pay since there hasn't been any emails about not being able to? Considering that it takes 5-7 business days for the traveler's cheques to arrive and we leave in 2 weeks or so, I'll need $275 from everyone as soon as possible I don't quite have $2206 to order the cheques now. If you want to pay by check please make it out to me, Luella Cruz. Thanks! Luella =) From zannie@eorbit.net Wed Nov 5 10:07:53 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hA5I7qTC032138 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:07:53 -0800 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:07:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <63623.206.159.99.37.1068055673.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1261.10.200.2.164.1068053046.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <2832.10.200.2.164.1066264594.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <2125.10.200.2.139.1066267919.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1066684716.13649.84.camel@cranky> <4673.10.200.2.139.1066808016.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1066839711.31218.109.camel@overlord> <1066855070.2614.51.camel@cranky> <1261.10.200.2.164.1068053046.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:07:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel Hoksbergen From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:07:54 -0000 Luella Cruz said: > Well I take it that everyone can pay since there hasn't been any emails > about not being able to? Considering that it takes 5-7 business days for > the traveler's cheques to arrive and we leave in 2 weeks or so, I'll need > $275 from everyone as soon as possible I don't quite have $2206 to order > the cheques now. If you want to pay by check please make it out to me, > Luella Cruz. Is Friday okay? I can do it today, but I'd be a little more comfortable on Friday, when I get paid. Zannie -- Anything I've ever done that ultimately was worthwhile initially scared me to death. --Betty Bender From luella@eorbit.net Wed Nov 5 12:05:37 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hA5K5aTC007791 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:05:36 -0800 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:05:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1131.10.200.2.164.1068062736.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <63623.206.159.99.37.1068055673.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <2832.10.200.2.164.1066264594.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <2125.10.200.2.139.1066267919.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1066684716.13649.84.camel@cranky> <4673.10.200.2.139.1066808016.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1066839711.31218.109.camel@overlord> <1066855070.2614.51.camel@cranky> <1261.10.200.2.164.1068053046.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <63623.206.159.99.37.1068055673.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:05:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel Hoksbergen From: "Luella Cruz" To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:05:37 -0000 Friday is good. I'll be setting up a separate account for this, because I can and because I don't need to be confused if I comingle funds. Lu Zannie said: > Luella Cruz said: >> Well I take it that everyone can pay since there hasn't been any emails >> about not being able to? Considering that it takes 5-7 business days for >> the traveler's cheques to arrive and we leave in 2 weeks or so, I'll >> need >> $275 from everyone as soon as possible I don't quite have $2206 to order >> the cheques now. If you want to pay by check please make it out to me, >> Luella Cruz. > > Is Friday okay? I can do it today, but I'd be a little more comfortable > on Friday, when I get paid. > > Zannie > > -- > Anything I've ever done that ultimately was worthwhile initially scared me > to death. > --Betty Bender > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > From luella@eorbit.net Mon Nov 10 18:36:16 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAB2aFTC015636 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:36:15 -0800 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:36:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3929.10.200.2.164.1068518175.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:36:15 -0800 (PST) From: "Luella Cruz" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Slight change in payment plans for the apartments... X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:36:16 -0000 Ok, so I called my bank for the traveler's cheques and well, the exchagne rate that American Express uses is slightly higher than what Rob and I had found. It's only an 8 cent difference, but in the end paying by credit card is actually cheaper. You all can check my math on this, but 5% on 1920 Euros is only 96. The total is 2016 Euros, which comes to $2317 - based on a 1 Euro to $1.15 conversion rate. Going through American Express, which uses a 1 Euro to $1.23 conversion rate, the total is $2370. I don't know about you, but Rob and I think that paying by credit card would be better. Ben - You had offered to use your credit card at one point...Can we please, pretty please with cherries on top??? If everyone's ok with this, then we all owe Ben $15. I'll cut a cashier's check for the moolah that everyone already gave me. C'est la vie... ~ lu =Þ From mako@eorbit.net Mon Nov 10 19:02:09 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAB328TC016232 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:02:08 -0800 Received: from 66.122.74.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mako) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:02:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4229.66.122.74.37.1068519728.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <3929.10.200.2.164.1068518175.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <3929.10.200.2.164.1068518175.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:02:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] Slight change in payment plans for the apartments... From: mako@eorbit.net To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:02:10 -0000 I'm still willing to use my card for the hotel. Ben > Ok, so I called my bank for the traveler's cheques and well, the exchagne > rate that American Express uses is slightly higher than what Rob and I had > found. It's only an 8 cent difference, but in the end paying by credit > card is actually cheaper. > > You all can check my math on this, but 5% on 1920 Euros is only 96. The > total is 2016 Euros, which comes to $2317 - based on a 1 Euro to $1.15 > conversion rate. > > Going through American Express, which uses a 1 Euro to $1.23 conversion > rate, the total is $2370. > > I don't know about you, but Rob and I think that paying by credit card > would be better. > > Ben - You had offered to use your credit card at one point...Can we > please, pretty please with cherries on top??? > > If everyone's ok with this, then we all owe Ben $15. I'll cut a cashier's > check for the moolah that everyone already gave me. > > C'est la vie... > > ~ lu =Þ > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > From dan@eorbit.net Mon Nov 10 21:37:03 2003 Received: from mango4v7fy9v9c ([10.200.2.128]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAB5b3TC020430 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:37:03 -0800 Message-ID: <000701c3a815$d5ed1590$8002c80a@mango4v7fy9v9c> From: "Dan Gross" To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" References: <3929.10.200.2.164.1068518175.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Subject: Re: [ams] Slight change in payment plans for the apartments... Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:37:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:37:04 -0000 sounds groovy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luella Cruz" To: Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:36 PM Subject: [ams] Slight change in payment plans for the apartments... > Ok, so I called my bank for the traveler's cheques and well, the exchagne > rate that American Express uses is slightly higher than what Rob and I had > found. It's only an 8 cent difference, but in the end paying by credit > card is actually cheaper. > > You all can check my math on this, but 5% on 1920 Euros is only 96. The > total is 2016 Euros, which comes to $2317 - based on a 1 Euro to $1.15 > conversion rate. > > Going through American Express, which uses a 1 Euro to $1.23 conversion > rate, the total is $2370. > > I don't know about you, but Rob and I think that paying by credit card > would be better. > > Ben - You had offered to use your credit card at one point...Can we > please, pretty please with cherries on top??? > > If everyone's ok with this, then we all owe Ben $15. I'll cut a cashier's > check for the moolah that everyone already gave me. > > C'est la vie... > > ~ lu =Þ > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams From rob@eorbit.net Tue Nov 11 10:21:17 2003 Received: from eorbit.net (adsl-66-122-79-22.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [66.122.79.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABILGTC009490 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:21:16 -0800 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:21:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [ams] Slight change in payment plans for the apartments... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <3929.10.200.2.164.1068518175.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:21:17 -0000 On Monday, November 10, 2003, at 06:36 PM, Luella Cruz wrote: > You all can check my math on this, but 5% on 1920 Euros is only 96. The > total is 2016 Euros, which comes to $2317 - based on a 1 Euro to $1.15 > conversion rate. > > Going through American Express, which uses a 1 Euro to $1.23 conversion > rate, the total is $2370. Your math is right on. But there are two more factors that figure in to this: 1. The travellers checks also have some other fees. A fee to purchase the checks and a shipping and handling fee, which makes them even more expensive. 2. The credit card is not going to give us market rate either (unless you're a big bank buy millions of Euro at a time, you don't get that rate). However, I'm guessing that the rates are 2-3 cents off posted rate, which is still cheaper than travellers checks. > -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From lillian@boojiboy.eorbit.net Tue Nov 11 10:36:20 2003 Received: from overlord (adsl-66-122-76-154.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [66.122.76.154]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hABIaJTD010263 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:36:19 -0800 Subject: Re: [ams] Slight change in payment plans for the apartments... From: lillian To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1068575835.18592.5.camel@overlord> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:37:16 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:36:20 -0000 This is fine with me... On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 10:21, Robert Kaye wrote: > On Monday, November 10, 2003, at 06:36 PM, Luella Cruz wrote: > > You all can check my math on this, but 5% on 1920 Euros is only 96. The > > total is 2016 Euros, which comes to $2317 - based on a 1 Euro to $1.15 > > conversion rate. > > > > Going through American Express, which uses a 1 Euro to $1.23 conversion > > rate, the total is $2370. > > Your math is right on. But there are two more factors that figure in to > this: > > 1. The travellers checks also have some other fees. A fee to purchase > the checks and a shipping and handling fee, which makes them even more > expensive. > 2. The credit card is not going to give us market rate either (unless > you're a big bank buy millions of Euro at a time, you don't get that > rate). However, I'm guessing that the rates are 2-3 cents off posted > rate, which is still cheaper than travellers checks. > > > > -- > > --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. > > Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams -- lillian From jean@eorbit.net Tue Nov 11 10:54:32 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hABIsVTC011058 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:54:31 -0800 Received: from 63.194.126.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jean) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:54:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1478.63.194.126.18.1068576871.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1068575835.18592.5.camel@overlord> References: <1068575835.18592.5.camel@overlord> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:54:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] Slight change in payment plans for the apartments... From: jean@eorbit.net To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:54:34 -0000 I'm just posting to say "yeeha" so you know I'm reading the list mail... > This is fine with me... > > On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 10:21, Robert Kaye wrote: >> On Monday, November 10, 2003, at 06:36 PM, Luella Cruz wrote: >> > You all can check my math on this, but 5% on 1920 Euros is only 96. >> The >> > total is 2016 Euros, which comes to $2317 - based on a 1 Euro to $1.15 >> > conversion rate. >> > >> > Going through American Express, which uses a 1 Euro to $1.23 >> conversion >> > rate, the total is $2370. >> >> Your math is right on. But there are two more factors that figure in to >> this: >> >> 1. The travellers checks also have some other fees. A fee to purchase >> the checks and a shipping and handling fee, which makes them even more >> expensive. >> 2. The credit card is not going to give us market rate either (unless >> you're a big bank buy millions of Euro at a time, you don't get that >> rate). However, I'm guessing that the rates are 2-3 cents off posted >> rate, which is still cheaper than travellers checks. >> >> >> > -- >> >> --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. >> >> Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ams mailing list >> ams@eorbit.net >> http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > -- > lillian > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > From zannie@eorbit.net Tue Nov 11 11:14:57 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hABJEuTC012096 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:14:56 -0800 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:14:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <64134.206.159.99.37.1068578096.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1478.63.194.126.18.1068576871.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <1068575835.18592.5.camel@overlord> <1478.63.194.126.18.1068576871.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:14:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] Slight change in payment plans for the apartments... From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:14:57 -0000 In case we're taking roll call, I'll explicitly state that I'm all good with the change of plans. jean@eorbit.net said: > I'm just posting to say "yeeha" so you know I'm reading the list mail... > >> This is fine with me... >> >> On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 10:21, Robert Kaye wrote: >>> On Monday, November 10, 2003, at 06:36 PM, Luella Cruz wrote: >>> > You all can check my math on this, but 5% on 1920 Euros is only 96. >>> The >>> > total is 2016 Euros, which comes to $2317 - based on a 1 Euro to >>> $1.15 >>> > conversion rate. >>> > >>> > Going through American Express, which uses a 1 Euro to $1.23 >>> conversion >>> > rate, the total is $2370. >>> >>> Your math is right on. But there are two more factors that figure in to >>> this: >>> >>> 1. The travellers checks also have some other fees. A fee to purchase >>> the checks and a shipping and handling fee, which makes them even more >>> expensive. >>> 2. The credit card is not going to give us market rate either (unless >>> you're a big bank buy millions of Euro at a time, you don't get that >>> rate). However, I'm guessing that the rates are 2-3 cents off posted >>> rate, which is still cheaper than travellers checks. >>> >>> >>> > -- >>> >>> --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. >>> >>> Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ams mailing list >>> ams@eorbit.net >>> http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams >> -- >> lillian >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ams mailing list >> ams@eorbit.net >> http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams >> > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > -- Anything I've ever done that ultimately was worthwhile initially scared me to death. --Betty Bender From elf@elf-design.com Thu Nov 13 13:26:33 2003 Received: from ezr.doomsong.net (adsl-209-204-169-17.sonic.net [209.204.169.17]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hADLQWTC008136 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:26:33 -0800 Received: by ezr.doomsong.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7BD0F4109; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezr.doomsong.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6C24103 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:23:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:23:00 -0800 (PST) From: Erin Ferree X-X-Sender: elf@ezr.doomsong.net To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <1065644778.2584.92.camel@cranky> Message-ID: <20031113132227.J13334@ezr.doomsong.net> References: <64877.206.159.99.37.1065643826.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1065645302.20952.339.camel@overlord> <1065644778.2584.92.camel@cranky> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] meeting up with you guys? X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:26:35 -0000 How do we find you guys once we get into Amsterdam? -------------- Erin L. Ferree elf design - Increasing your visibility, credibility and memorability. P.O. Box 5052, San Mateo, CA 94402 phone 650-358-9973 / fax 240-597-1083 http://www.elf-design.com From rob@eorbit.net Thu Nov 13 13:39:56 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-66-122-79-22.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [66.122.79.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hADLdsTD008755 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:39:55 -0800 Subject: Re: [ams] meeting up with you guys? From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <20031113132227.J13334@ezr.doomsong.net> References: <64877.206.159.99.37.1065643826.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1065644778.2584.92.camel@cranky> <20031113132227.J13334@ezr.doomsong.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1068759593.2018.45.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:39:54 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:39:57 -0000 On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 13:23, Erin Ferree wrote: > How do we find you guys once we get into Amsterdam? Call me on my cell: 0627 406 326 Or, find us at our apartment at: Gasthuismolensteeg 10 We'll be on the 3rd and 4th floor. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From dan@eorbit.net Mon Nov 17 15:04:20 2003 Received: from mango4v7fy9v9c ([10.200.2.128]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAHN4JTC023901 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:04:20 -0800 Message-ID: <001f01c3ad5f$21e21970$8002c80a@mango4v7fy9v9c> From: "Dan Gross" To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:04:19 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C3AD1C.13B42B10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Hearing loss strikes again X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:04:24 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C3AD1C.13B42B10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just got my plane tickets from Janice last night and was surprised to = find that we are going to meet in Amsterdam, when this whole time I = thought we were going to eat hamster Spam. 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    I just got my plane tickets from Janice = last night=20 and was surprised to find that we are going to meet in Amsterdam, when = this=20 whole time I thought we were going to eat hamster Spam.  Being a = fan of new=20 Hawaiian food I'm rather dissappointed, but will try to make the best of = the=20 situation.  (in other words, Yea!!!  we're going to=20 Amsterdam!!!!!!!!!).
    ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C3AD1C.13B42B10-- From zannie@eorbit.net Mon Nov 17 15:16:52 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAHNGqTC024350 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:16:52 -0800 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:16:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <64366.206.159.99.37.1069111012.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <001f01c3ad5f$21e21970$8002c80a@mango4v7fy9v9c> References: <001f01c3ad5f$21e21970$8002c80a@mango4v7fy9v9c> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:16:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] Hearing loss strikes again From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:16:56 -0000 I got an Outlook reminder this morning: "Vacation, due in: 3 days" Woo hoo! Dan Gross said: > I just got my plane tickets from Janice last night and was surprised to > find that we are going to meet in Amsterdam, when this whole time I > thought we were going to eat hamster Spam. Being a fan of new Hawaiian > food I'm rather dissappointed, but will try to make the best of the > situation. (in other words, Yea!!! we're going to > Amsterdam!!!!!!!!!)._______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > -- "Anything I've ever done that ultimately was worthwhile initially scared me to death." --Betty Bender "The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts." --Lawrence of Arabia From zannie@eorbit.net Tue Nov 18 01:01:02 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAI911TC007680 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:01:01 -0800 Received: from 10.200.2.139 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:01:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4927.10.200.2.139.1069146061.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 01:01:01 -0800 (PST) From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Passports X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:01:02 -0000 Perhaps on the paranoid side, but it's not a bad idea to make a few photocopies of your passport so that if anything happens to it while we're over there you've at least got all the data from it when you go to the Embassy to try to get straightened out. Just a thought. :) Zannie -- "Anything I've ever done that ultimately was worthwhile initially scared me to death." --Betty Bender "The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts." --Lawrence of Arabia From jean@eorbit.net Tue Nov 18 08:05:57 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAIG5vTC016140; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:05:57 -0800 Received: from 63.194.126.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jean) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:05:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2137.63.194.126.18.1069171557.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <4927.10.200.2.139.1069146061.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <4927.10.200.2.139.1069146061.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:05:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] Passports From: jean@eorbit.net To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" Cc: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:05:58 -0000 According to the notary handbook, it's illegal to photocopy a passport. I haven't looked into the whys or whatever, but in my bidness we're not allowed to photocopy a passport, even for the Patriot Act qualifications. ;p > Perhaps on the paranoid side, but it's not a bad idea to make a few > photocopies of your passport so that if anything happens to it while we're > over there you've at least got all the data from it when you go to the > Embassy to try to get straightened out. > > Just a thought. > > :) > Zannie From zannie@eorbit.net Tue Nov 18 09:22:17 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAIHMGTC018023 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:22:16 -0800 Received: from 10.200.2.139 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:22:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1502.10.200.2.139.1069176136.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <2137.63.194.126.18.1069171557.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <4927.10.200.2.139.1069146061.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <2137.63.194.126.18.1069171557.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:22:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] Passports From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:22:19 -0000 Weird. They must think the passport checkers are really dumb and won't know the difference between a real passport and a photocopy. :) I got this recommendation from someone or other official when I went on London Study. It was either Cal Poly, AFSA (A... Foreign Student Association or something) or BUNAC (British Universities North America Club). But I'm glad there's *something* you can't do even for the Patriot Act qualifications. I've been notified by my dentist and my eye surgeon that they must hand over my records if asked to. Dammit, now they'll be able to find out about that bomb I had implanted in my teeth, and the camera implanted in my eye. :) Zannie jean@eorbit.net said: > According to the notary handbook, it's illegal to photocopy a passport. I > haven't looked into the whys or whatever, but in my bidness we're not > allowed to photocopy a passport, even for the Patriot Act qualifications. > > ;p > > >> Perhaps on the paranoid side, but it's not a bad idea to make a few >> photocopies of your passport so that if anything happens to it while >> we're >> over there you've at least got all the data from it when you go to the >> Embassy to try to get straightened out. >> >> Just a thought. >> >> :) >> Zannie > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > -- "Anything I've ever done that ultimately was worthwhile initially scared me to death." --Betty Bender "The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts." --Lawrence of Arabia From rob@eorbit.net Tue Nov 18 14:04:00 2003 Received: from [166.147.132.86] (86.sub-166-147-132.myvzw.com [166.147.132.86]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAIM3qTC027883 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:03:57 -0800 From: Robert Kaye Message-ID: <2.1.1-93548745-369-A-OEWW@mail.eorbit.net> To: ams@eorbit.net Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:59:12 -0800 X-Mailer: Eudora 2.1.1 for PalmOS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] First flight cancelled X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:04:00 -0000 Already! Now I'm on the party flight... Just a few days early. Sigh. and I had an exit row seat on the sfo flight. see you all soon! --ruaok Mayhem & Chaos via wireless mail! From zannie@eorbit.net Tue Nov 18 16:13:04 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAJ0D3TC031742 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:13:03 -0800 Received: from 206.159.99.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:13:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <62195.206.159.99.37.1069200783.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <2137.63.194.126.18.1069171557.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <4927.10.200.2.139.1069146061.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <2137.63.194.126.18.1069171557.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:13:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] Passports From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:13:04 -0000 jean@eorbit.net said: > According to the notary handbook, it's illegal to photocopy a passport. I > haven't looked into the whys or whatever, but in my bidness we're not > allowed to photocopy a passport, even for the Patriot Act qualifications. How strange... I just looked in my passport to see if it says you can't photocopy it, and on page 3 it says, "Make two photocopies of your passport ID page. Leave one at home with family/friends. Carry the other with you in a place separate from your passport." Maybe that's where I got the idea. :) Maybe it's illegal to photocopy someone *else's* passport? Zannie -- "Anything I've ever done that ultimately was worthwhile initially scared me to death." --Betty Bender "The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts." --Lawrence of Arabia From rob@eorbit.net Tue Nov 18 17:18:27 2003 Received: from [151.144.162.45] ([151.144.162.45]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJ1IITC000682 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:18:24 -0800 From: Robert Kaye Message-ID: <2.1.1-93689852-369-A-OEWW@mail.eorbit.net> To: ams@eorbit.net Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:16:32 -0800 X-Mailer: Eudora 2.1.1 for PalmOS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Uk num X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:18:27 -0000 Hi 10:06 flight time from lax reach me in the .uk at: 07 86611 7971 sorry, i don't recall the country code.. In .nl reach me at: 06 27 406 326 .nl is 31. I think the uk is 33. Bye! --ruaok Mayhem & Chaos via wireless mail! From rob@eorbit.net Tue Nov 18 17:19:44 2003 Received: from [151.144.162.45] ([151.144.162.45]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJ1JcTC000738 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:19:43 -0800 From: Robert Kaye Message-ID: <2.1.1-93697622-368-B-OEWW@mail.eorbit.net> To: ams@eorbit.net Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:19:26 -0800 X-Mailer: Eudora 2.1.1 for PalmOS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Movies X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:19:44 -0000 Tomb raider 2 and charlies angels 2. Ick. --ruaok Mayhem & Chaos via wireless mail! From rob@eorbit.net Tue Nov 18 17:24:36 2003 Received: from [151.144.163.15] ([151.144.163.15]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJ1OUTC000885 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:24:34 -0800 From: Robert Kaye Message-ID: <2.1.1-93721439-369-C-OEWW@mail.eorbit.net> To: ams@eorbit.net Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:24:06 -0800 X-Mailer: Eudora 2.1.1 for PalmOS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Time X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:24:37 -0000 Its only 9:23 to lhr. --ruaok Mayhem & Chaos via wireless mail! From zannie@eorbit.net Wed Nov 19 23:35:03 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAK7Z2TC008829 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:35:02 -0800 Received: from 10.200.2.139 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:35:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4556.10.200.2.139.1069313702.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:35:02 -0800 (PST) From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Transportation X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:35:03 -0000 Do we have a plan for getting to the airport? When we go to check in, I can take myself, Dan and a couple of other people (Martin and Lu?) in my car and park it at a meter, but when we go back to actually fly (or get drunk, or whatever) I'd rather not have to leave my car at the airport. Shall we ask Victoria if she can drive us in her momma van? Or just get our own rides? Other suggestions? I guess there's the matter of "back again," too. Zannie -- "Anything I've ever done that ultimately was worthwhile initially scared me to death." --Betty Bender "The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts." --Lawrence of Arabia From jean@eorbit.net Thu Nov 20 08:12:40 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAKGCeTC018711; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:12:40 -0800 Received: from 63.194.126.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jean) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:12:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2477.63.194.126.18.1069344760.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <4556.10.200.2.139.1069313702.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <4556.10.200.2.139.1069313702.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:12:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] Transportation From: jean@eorbit.net To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" Cc: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:12:41 -0000 > Do we have a plan for getting to the airport? > > When we go to check in, I can take myself, Dan and a couple of other > people (Martin and Lu?) in my car and park it at a meter, but when we go > back to actually fly (or get drunk, or whatever) I'd rather not have to > leave my car at the airport. > > Shall we ask Victoria if she can drive us in her momma van? Or just get > our own rides? Other suggestions? Tha Noodle has volunteered to drive us over (using the 4runner) and maybe the V can take the rest. We should take our separate cars to check in at the airport in the early a.m. and then we can be picked up shuttle style and herded on. Yee fucking ha! P.S. I have not even BEGUN to pack. ;p From luella@eorbit.net Thu Nov 20 21:57:09 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAL5v9TC008613 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:57:09 -0800 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:57:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2169.10.200.2.164.1069394229.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:57:09 -0800 (PST) From: "Luella Cruz" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] [Fwd: Reservation 2003-11-22] X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:57:09 -0000 If anyone was wondering about towels and fuss...the hotel provides bed sheets and towels... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- All our (self-catering) apartments have 1 big living-room with 2 places to sleep, 1 bed-room with 2 more places to sleep (bedsheets provided), bath (bath-towels provided), wc, fully fournished open kitchen (including microwave). Our apartment-house is situated right in the center of beautiful Amsterdam in a street between the Singel and Herengracht close to the Dam square with the Royal Palace. Hotel Hoksbergen is renting out the apartments, and that is the place to check in, pay the full bill, pick up your key, and walk the last 200 meter to your apartment, to start your holiday in Amsterdam. We are at only 3 tram-stops from the train-station, and have also a stop of the direct bus from the airport nearby. All places of touristical interest are in walking distance. Best regards, Xia / Bruno / Bert Hotel Hoksbergen Singel 301 1012 WH Amsterdam Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl From zannie@eorbit.net Thu Nov 20 23:14:08 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hAL7E8TC010217 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:14:08 -0800 Received: from 10.200.2.139 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:14:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2677.10.200.2.139.1069398848.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:14:08 -0800 (PST) From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Directions & Shit X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:14:09 -0000 So... does anyone know how to get from the airport to the apartments? Should I be paying more attention? Is there a maps.yahoo.nl? I'll go and see.... Zannie -- "Anything I've ever done that ultimately was worthwhile initially scared me to death." --Betty Bender "The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts." --Lawrence of Arabia From rob@eorbit.net Fri Nov 21 00:43:46 2003 Received: from eorbit.net ([195.60.9.123]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAL8hiTC012366 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:43:45 -0800 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:43:45 +0000 Subject: Re: [ams] Directions & Shit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <2677.10.200.2.139.1069398848.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:43:46 -0000 On Friday, November 21, 2003, at 07:14 AM, Zannie wrote: > So... does anyone know how to get from the airport to the apartments? > Should I be paying more attention? Is there a maps.yahoo.nl? I'll go > and > see.... You shouldn't have to worry about it. You all will have too much luggage to actually walk from the train station to the hotel. I would suggest you all take the train from Schiphol to Amsterdam CS and from there exit the train station and veer a hard right towards the taxi stand. Have the taxi take you to Hotel Hoksbergen at Singel 301. From there the hotel staff will guide you or perhaps even walk with you to the apartments. From there Jean can take over the necessary local navigation to the important places like the bakery, Wynand Focking etc. Will she find the pancake place? That is another question. :-) Hint: Start at the apartments and walk north. Turn left on Raduisstraat and walk until you see Hotel Nadia on your left side. Take the first right (Prinsengracht, if I am not mistaken) and continue to walk north until the pancake place appears on the right hand side. If you get to a large cross street with elevated railroad tracks behind it, you've gone too far. > -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Mon Dec 1 18:08:46 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hB228kTC019521 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:08:46 -0800 Received: from 10.200.2.139 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:08:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2598.10.200.2.139.1070330926.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:08:46 -0800 (PST) From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] wrap-up X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:08:47 -0000 Yay for getting home alive. I went by the airport to pick up my luggage and they didn't have Jean's or Ben's, so I hope you two picked yours up already. Boom Chicago has not charged my card yet, but if they use the same conversion rate as was used when I bought my Chinese dress a couple of days earlier, it will come out to $16 a person. Those of us on the Van of Joy from LA to SLO owe Dan $4 each for tipping the driver. For those of you who don't know, I am the miscreant who ate the third key to apartment 19. All I can think that happened, aside from the obvious factor of my being high, is that before I knew there were three keys I saw that Dan had a key and assumed that meant I didn't. Consider crow eaten. Ben, if your credit card is charged let me know and I'll reimburse you. Not a great end to the trip, but it could have been a hell of a lot worse, and overall, I still had a fantastic time, plague and all. Thank you, all of you!!! Zannie P.S. Dan is a fucking rock star. -- "Anything I've ever done that ultimately was worthwhile initially scared me to death." --Betty Bender "The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts." --Lawrence of Arabia From mako@eorbit.net Sun Dec 7 16:51:28 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hB80pQts030688 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:51:27 -0800 Received: from 66.122.74.91 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mako) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:51:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2408.66.122.74.91.1070844687.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:51:27 -0800 (PST) From: mako@eorbit.net To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Hotel charges X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 00:51:40 -0000 The charge for the Apartments came to $2486.02. The receipt I have is for 1920 euros. So I'm assuming we were charged for something. But who knows whether it was for damages, the key and/or a bad exchange rate. Does anyone want to bother to contact them or do we just want to divide up the difference. Ben From rob@eorbit.net Mon Dec 8 08:56:24 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-66-122-79-22.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [66.122.79.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB8GuNtt024120 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:56:24 -0800 Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel charges From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <2408.66.122.74.91.1070844687.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <2408.66.122.74.91.1070844687.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1070902580.13383.6.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 08:56:21 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:56:28 -0000 On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 16:51, mako@eorbit.net wrote: > The charge for the Apartments came to $2486.02. The receipt I have is for > 1920 euros. So I'm assuming we were charged for something. But who knows > whether it was for damages, the key and/or a bad exchange rate. Does > anyone want to bother to contact them or do we just want to divide up the > difference. Let's do a few things: 1) Ben, call up your credit card company and ask how many Euros were charged to your card. The company should know this. Using today's rate, (which is a bit worse and thus probably comparable to what your CC company charged you), the 1920 Euros should come to $2,346.82 which is $140 off from what we expected. 2) Lu, can you please send mail to the hotel requesting an itimization of the charges?? Thanks! When we have both of those we'll know what to do... -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From mako@eorbit.net Mon Dec 8 11:34:11 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hB8JYAts031558 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:34:10 -0800 Received: from 66.122.74.26 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mako) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:34:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1317.66.122.74.26.1070912050.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1070902580.13383.6.camel@cranky> References: <2408.66.122.74.91.1070844687.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1070902580.13383.6.camel@cranky> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:34:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] Hotel charges From: mako@eorbit.net To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 19:34:13 -0000 Alright I tried calling Citibank and they can't tell us anything other than try calling mastercard international. So I tried calling Mastercard international and after about 30 minutes of being on hold and having the system kick me out once, the only information they can give me is the exchange rate for that day. They claim to have no way of telling me what the actually charge was. So the charge showed up on 11/28 at a rate of 1.2007. And according to the recorded message they play while you are on hold it sounds like mastercard charges 1% for every international transaction. So 1920 euros plus 1% = 1939.20 * 1.2007= 2328.40. So we are going to need the itemized bill to figure this out. b > On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 16:51, mako@eorbit.net wrote: >> The charge for the Apartments came to $2486.02. The receipt I have is >> for >> 1920 euros. So I'm assuming we were charged for something. But who >> knows >> whether it was for damages, the key and/or a bad exchange rate. Does >> anyone want to bother to contact them or do we just want to divide up >> the >> difference. > > Let's do a few things: > > 1) Ben, call up your credit card company and ask how many Euros were > charged to your card. The company should know this. Using today's rate, > (which is a bit worse and thus probably comparable to what your CC > company charged you), the 1920 Euros should come to $2,346.82 which is > $140 off from what we expected. > > 2) Lu, can you please send mail to the hotel requesting an itimization > of the charges?? > > Thanks! When we have both of those we'll know what to do... > > > -- > > --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. > > Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > From lillian@boojiboy.eorbit.net Mon Dec 8 14:24:53 2003 Received: from overlord (adsl-66-122-67-143.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [66.122.67.143]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB8MOqtt007290 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:24:53 -0800 From: lillian To: ams@eorbit.net Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1070922353.1465.4.camel@overlord> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:25:54 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Pictures? X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 22:24:55 -0000 Yo, Now that we are back and mostly recovered, it might be nice if everyone who took pics could somehow share them with everyone else. I know rob took a few that I'd like to have and I know there are many that others took that never ended up on rob's laptop for evening slideshows. I don't know where those with pics might dump them for others to browse, but I thought I'd put this out there to get the ball rolling... lil -- lillian From mako@eorbit.net Mon Dec 8 14:36:46 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hB8Maets007796 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:36:40 -0800 Received: from 66.122.74.81 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mako) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:36:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1128.66.122.74.81.1070923000.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1070922353.1465.4.camel@overlord> References: <1070922353.1465.4.camel@overlord> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:36:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] Pictures? From: mako@eorbit.net To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 22:36:52 -0000 I ended up with 152 pictures at 175mb. I'd be happy to burn a cd for whoever wants one. b > Yo, > > Now that we are back and mostly recovered, it might be nice if everyone > who took pics could somehow share them with everyone else. I know rob > took a few that I'd like to have and I know there are many that others > took that never ended up on rob's laptop for evening slideshows. > > I don't know where those with pics might dump them for others to browse, > but I thought I'd put this out there to get the ball rolling... > > lil > > -- > lillian > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > From ray@doomsong.net Mon Dec 8 14:38:43 2003 Received: from pop1.corp.av.com (pop1-ext.corp.altavista.com [209.73.174.105]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB8Mcfts007970 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:38:42 -0800 Received: from [172.23.69.28] (d172236928.paq.av.com [172.23.69.28]) by pop1.corp.av.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id hB8McfxC020750 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:38:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:38:09 -0800 From: Ray Thro To: Amsterdam travel plans list Subject: Re: [ams] Pictures? Message-ID: <2147483647.1070894289@[172.23.69.28]> In-Reply-To: <1070922353.1465.4.camel@overlord> References: <1070922353.1465.4.camel@overlord> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.0 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 22:38:50 -0000 Ours are up at http://doomsong.net/gallery/euro2003 . They're mixed in with our other Europe pics, but they're in chronological order so it shouldn't be too painful to pick out. -- ray --On Monday, December 8, 2003 2:25 PM -0800 lillian wrote: > Yo, > > Now that we are back and mostly recovered, it might be nice if everyone > who took pics could somehow share them with everyone else. I know rob > took a few that I'd like to have and I know there are many that others > took that never ended up on rob's laptop for evening slideshows. > > I don't know where those with pics might dump them for others to browse, > but I thought I'd put this out there to get the ball rolling... > > lil > > -- > lillian > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams From jean@eorbit.net Mon Dec 8 14:47:21 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hB8MlKts008374 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:47:20 -0800 Received: from 63.194.126.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jean) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:47:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1286.63.194.126.18.1070923640.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1070894289@[172.23.69.28]> References: <1070922353.1465.4.camel@overlord> <2147483647.1070894289@[172.23.69.28]> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:47:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] Pictures? From: jean@eorbit.net To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 22:47:25 -0000 I took none but I want them ALL!!!!!!!!!! From rob@eorbit.net Mon Dec 8 15:44:46 2003 Received: from moon.eorbit.net (adsl-66-122-79-22.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [66.122.79.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB8Niitt010398 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:44:45 -0800 Subject: Re: [ams] Pictures? From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list In-Reply-To: <1128.66.122.74.81.1070923000.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <1070922353.1465.4.camel@overlord> <1128.66.122.74.81.1070923000.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MusicBrainz.org Message-Id: <1070927082.17603.70.camel@cranky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 15:44:42 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 23:44:54 -0000 On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 14:36, mako@eorbit.net wrote: > I ended up with 152 pictures at 175mb. I'd be happy to burn a cd for > whoever wants one. Ray, Ben: Why don't you two burn me your pics and I will then in turn combine them and burn an uber CD. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From zannie@eorbit.net Mon Dec 15 12:45:43 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hBFKjgts021827 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:45:42 -0800 Received: from 206.159.99.33 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zannie) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:45:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <64671.206.159.99.33.1071521142.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:45:42 -0800 (PST) From: "Zannie" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] financial stuff X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:45:44 -0000 The Boom Chicago charge came to $144.65, or $16 each. If those who went want to use PayPal, this address is the one to use. If you need to mail a check, send it to PO Box 13024, SLO, 93406, or my home address is fine too. Thanks! Any word on the hotel charges? Should we all just fork over some money to Ben and get on with our lives? Zannie -- "Anything I've ever done that ultimately was worthwhile initially scared me to death." --Betty Bender "The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts." --Lawrence of Arabia From luella@eorbit.net Tue Dec 16 19:52:49 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hBH3qmts011985 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:52:48 -0800 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:52:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2504.10.200.2.164.1071633168.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <64671.206.159.99.33.1071521142.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <64671.206.159.99.33.1071521142.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:52:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] financial stuff From: "Luella Cruz" To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:52:50 -0000 Zannie said: > Any word on the hotel charges? Should we all just fork over some money to > Ben and get on with our lives? I just got around to checking this email...sorry... Anyway, I sent off an email as requested and I guess wait and see what happens... lu From luella@eorbit.net Thu Dec 18 10:39:22 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hBIIdLts001446 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:39:21 -0800 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:39:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3334.10.200.2.164.1071772761.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:39:21 -0800 (PST) From: "Luella Cruz" To: ams@eorbit.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] [Fwd: Reservation 2003-11-22] X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:39:23 -0000 Here's the "invoice". I guess the conversion rate was reallu sucky... ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Reservation 2003-11-22 From: "Hotel Hoksbergen" Date: Thu, December 18, 2003 6:21 am To: "Luella Cruz" -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Mrs. L. Cruz, Thank you for your visit. We herewith send you the invoice for the following reservation made by you: Name guest(s): Mrs. L. Cruz Date of arrival: 22-11-2003 Date of departure: 30-11-2003 Number of nights: 8 Type of rooms: 2 apartments for 4 persons each. Price per room per night: EUR 120,00 Total bill: EUR 1.920,00 Contactpersons: Xia/Bruno/Bert We thank you for the payment that we already have received from you. Best regards, Xia / Bruno / Bert Hotel Hoksbergen Singel 301 1012 WH Amsterdam Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luella Cruz" To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:50 AM Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 | Dear Hotel Hoksbergen, | | I was wondering if you would be able to provide a copy of itemized charges | for the referenced reservation. You can fax to 1.805.528.0971 (USA) or | email. | | Thank you, | | Luella Cruz | | Hotel Hoksbergen said: | > Dear Luella Cruz. | > Thank you for your fax and email. We herewith confirm the following | > reservation made by you: | > Name guest(s): Mrs. L. Cruz | > Date of arrival: 22. november 2003 | > Check-in time: Please check in between 08.00-22.00 o'clock at Hotel | > Hoksbergen at 200 meter of our | > Gasthuismolensteeg 10 apartment house. Apartments are ready around 14.00 | > o'clock. | > We kindly request you to settle your bill at arrival. Ways of payment pls | > see below. | > Date of departure: 30. november 2003 | > Check-out time: 10.30 o'clock, but you can leave your luggage at Hotel | > Hoksbergen as long as you | > wish | > Number of nights: 8 | > Type of apartment: 2 apartments for 4 persons with privat | > bath/wc/television/fully fournished open | > kitchen (self-catering, no phone) | > Price per apt per night: EUR 120,00 | > Total bill: EUR 960 x 2 = Euro 1920,00 | > Guarantee: Creditcardnumber of Mr. Robert Kaye received by fax, thank you | > very much. | > Contactpersons: Xia/Bruno/Bert | > | > 1 - Transportation to our hotel by public transport and by car, and | > approximate prices: | > * From the airport 'Schiphol': (1) Taxi to hotel: EUR 35,00 (FIXED PRICE | > WITH TCA). (2) Airport | > Hotel Shuttle from gate A7 to NH - City-Centre-Hotel - Spui, 200 meters | > from us: EUR 10,00. (3) | > Train to train-station: EUR 4,- p p | > * From train-station to hotel: (1) Taxi EUR 7,50. (2) Tram 1, 2 or 5: 3rd | > stop called 'Spui' EUR | > 1,70 | > 2 - The credit-card you have given just serves as a guarantee. You can pay | > your bill also in other | > ways. | > If you wish to pay your bill with credit-card please note that we will | > have to charge you 5% extra | > as administration-costs. We accept traveller's checks in EURO without | > extra costs. | > 3 - Reservations are made following the Uniform Conditions of the | > Federation Horeca. Which means | > that if you unfortunately have to cancel the res, the costs are 0% of the | > price of 1 night if have | > to you cancel up to 2 weeks before arrival, 50% of 1 night if you have to | > cancel between 2 weeks and | > 1 week before arrival, 80% of 1 night if you have to cancel between 1 week | > and 48 hours before | > arrival, and 100% of 1 night after 48 hours before arrival. | > | > We thank you for this reservation and we look forward to welcoming you on | > your date of arrival. | > | > Best regards, | > Xia / Bruno / Bert | > Hotel Hoksbergen | > Singel 301 | > 1012 WH Amsterdam | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl | > | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Luella Cruz" | > To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" | > Cc: ; | > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 5:11 AM | > Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 | > | > | > | Dear Xia, Bert and Bruno: | > | | > | I apologize for the confusing emails. | > | | > | I viewed the pictures on the website and I am very satisfied with the | > | arrangement. I will be able to fax you a credit card and expiry date | > | immediately. Please confirm receipt of the fax via email. Thank you. | > | | > | Sincerely, | > | | > | Luella Cruz | > | | > | Hotel Hoksbergen said: | > | > Hello, | > | > Thanks for your emails. Only we got serveral telling different things. | > | > could you please clarify what | > | > you finally need? | > | > You can see pictures of the apartments at our website. Number 18 and | > 19 | > | > would be available. (3rd and | > | > 4th floor) | > | > Best regards, | > | > Xia / Bruno / Bert | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen | > | > Singel 301 | > | > 1012 WH Amsterdam | > | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 | > | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 | > | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl | > | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > | > From: "Luella Cruz" | > | > To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" | > | > Cc: ; | > | > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 10:24 AM | > | > Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 | > | > | > | > | > | > | Dear Xia, Bruno or Bert: | > | > | | > | > | I am very interested in confirming my reservation for the 2 4-person | > | > | apartments, but I do request further information regarding the 2 | > places | > | > to | > | > | sleep in the living room. Can you describe in more detail the | > sleeping | > | > | area in the living room? Is the sleeping area equivalent to a twin | > or a | > | > | double? Perhaps you have a picture that is accessible online? | > | > | | > | > | Once we have further information regarding the sleeping area I will | > be | > | > | able to supply a credit card with expiry date within 24 hours via | > fax. | > | > | | > | > | Also, please reply to not only myself but to rob@eorbit.net as well. | > | > | | > | > | Thank you. | > | > | | > | > | Sincerely, | > | > | | > | > | Luella Cruz | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | Hotel Hoksbergen said: | > | > | > Dear Mrs. Luella Cruz, | > | > | > | > | > | > Thank you for your email/fax through Bookings. | > | > | > Requested 2 apartments for 4 persons each (8 persons: 4 indiviuals | > and | > | > 2 | > | > | > couples) ARE available for | > | > | > 8 nights starting 22-11-2003. | > | > | > The price is EUR 120,00 per night including all taxes. | > | > | > All our (self-catering) apartments have 1 big living-room with 2 | > | > places to | > | > | > sleep, 1 bed-room with 2 | > | > | > more places to sleep (bedsheets provided), bath (bath-towels | > | > provided), | > | > | > wc, fully fournished open | > | > | > kitchen (including microwave). | > | > | > Our apartment-house is situated right in the center of beautiful | > | > Amsterdam | > | > | > in a street between the | > | > | > Singel and Herengracht close to the Dam square with the Royal | > Palace. | > | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen is renting out the apartments, and that is the | > place | > | > to | > | > | > check in, pay the full | > | > | > bill, pick up your key, and walk the last 200 meter to your | > apartment, | > | > to | > | > | > start your holiday in | > | > | > Amsterdam. | > | > | > We are at only 3 tram-stops from the train-station, and have also | > a | > | > stop | > | > | > of the direct bus from the | > | > | > airport nearby. | > | > | > All places of touristical interest are in walking distance. | > | > | > For any further information, please check our website. | > | > | > For reservations, please send us a valid credit-card-number with | > | > expiry | > | > | > date as a guarantee as soon | > | > | > as possible. Preferably before 12-10-2003. We thank you for this | > in | > | > | > advance, and look forward to | > | > | > your message. | > | > | > | > | > | > Best regards, | > | > | > Xia / Bruno / Bert | > | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen | > | > | > Singel 301 | > | > | > 1012 WH Amsterdam | > | > | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 | > | > | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 | > | > | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl | > | > | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | | > | From rob@eorbit.net Thu Dec 18 11:27:29 2003 Received: from eorbit.net (adsl-66-122-79-22.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [66.122.79.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBIJRRts003646 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:27:28 -0800 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:27:27 -0800 Subject: Re: [ams] [Fwd: Reservation 2003-11-22] Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Robert Kaye To: Amsterdam travel plans list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <3334.10.200.2.164.1071772761.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Message-Id: <370C317C-3190-11D8-B9B4-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:27:30 -0000 Eeeek. OK, Ben, can you please figure out what people owe you and then post that? Lets just get this done and taken care of. On Thursday, December 18, 2003, at 10:39 AM, Luella Cruz wrote: > Here's the "invoice". I guess the conversion rate was reallu sucky... > > > ---------------------------- Original Message > ---------------------------- > Subject: Reservation 2003-11-22 > From: "Hotel Hoksbergen" > Date: Thu, December 18, 2003 6:21 am > To: "Luella Cruz" > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > Dear Mrs. L. Cruz, > > Thank you for your visit. We herewith send you the invoice for the > following reservation made by you: > > Name guest(s): Mrs. L. Cruz > Date of arrival: 22-11-2003 > Date of departure: 30-11-2003 > Number of nights: 8 > Type of rooms: 2 apartments for 4 persons each. > Price per room per night: EUR 120,00 > Total bill: EUR 1.920,00 > Contactpersons: Xia/Bruno/Bert > > We thank you for the payment that we already have received from you. > > Best regards, > Xia / Bruno / Bert > Hotel Hoksbergen > Singel 301 > 1012 WH Amsterdam > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Luella Cruz" > To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:50 AM > Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 > > > | Dear Hotel Hoksbergen, > | > | I was wondering if you would be able to provide a copy of itemized > charges | for the referenced reservation. You can fax to 1.805.528.0971 > (USA) or | email. > | > | Thank you, > | > | Luella Cruz > | > | Hotel Hoksbergen said: > | > Dear Luella Cruz. > | > Thank you for your fax and email. We herewith confirm the > following | >> reservation made by you: > | > Name guest(s): Mrs. L. Cruz > | > Date of arrival: 22. november 2003 > | > Check-in time: Please check in between 08.00-22.00 o'clock at > Hotel | >> Hoksbergen at 200 meter of our > | > Gasthuismolensteeg 10 apartment house. Apartments are ready around > 14.00 | > o'clock. > | > We kindly request you to settle your bill at arrival. Ways of > payment > pls | > see below. > | > Date of departure: 30. november 2003 > | > Check-out time: 10.30 o'clock, but you can leave your luggage at > Hotel > | > Hoksbergen as long as you > | > wish > | > Number of nights: 8 > | > Type of apartment: 2 apartments for 4 persons with privat > | > bath/wc/television/fully fournished open > | > kitchen (self-catering, no phone) > | > Price per apt per night: EUR 120,00 > | > Total bill: EUR 960 x 2 = Euro 1920,00 > | > Guarantee: Creditcardnumber of Mr. Robert Kaye received by fax, > thank > you | > very much. > | > Contactpersons: Xia/Bruno/Bert > | > > | > 1 - Transportation to our hotel by public transport and by car, > and | >> approximate prices: > | > * From the airport 'Schiphol': (1) Taxi to hotel: EUR 35,00 (FIXED > PRICE | > WITH TCA). (2) Airport > | > Hotel Shuttle from gate A7 to NH - City-Centre-Hotel - Spui, 200 > meters | > from us: EUR 10,00. (3) > | > Train to train-station: EUR 4,- p p > | > * From train-station to hotel: (1) Taxi EUR 7,50. (2) Tram 1, 2 or > 5: > 3rd | > stop called 'Spui' EUR > | > 1,70 > | > 2 - The credit-card you have given just serves as a guarantee. You > can > pay | > your bill also in other > | > ways. > | > If you wish to pay your bill with credit-card please note that we > will > | > have to charge you 5% extra > | > as administration-costs. We accept traveller's checks in EURO > without > | > extra costs. > | > 3 - Reservations are made following the Uniform Conditions of the > | > > Federation Horeca. Which means > | > that if you unfortunately have to cancel the res, the costs are 0% > of > the | > price of 1 night if have > | > to you cancel up to 2 weeks before arrival, 50% of 1 night if you > have > to | > cancel between 2 weeks and > | > 1 week before arrival, 80% of 1 night if you have to cancel > between 1 > week | > and 48 hours before > | > arrival, and 100% of 1 night after 48 hours before arrival. > | > > | > We thank you for this reservation and we look forward to welcoming > you > on | > your date of arrival. > | > > | > Best regards, > | > Xia / Bruno / Bert > | > Hotel Hoksbergen > | > Singel 301 > | > 1012 WH Amsterdam > | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 > | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 > | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl > | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl > | > > | > > | > > | > ----- Original Message ----- > | > From: "Luella Cruz" > | > To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" > | > Cc: ; > | > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 5:11 AM > | > Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 > | > > | > > | > | Dear Xia, Bert and Bruno: > | > | > | > | I apologize for the confusing emails. > | > | > | > | I viewed the pictures on the website and I am very satisfied with > the | > | arrangement. I will be able to fax you a credit card and > expiry > date | > | immediately. Please confirm receipt of the fax via email. > Thank > you. | > | > | > | Sincerely, > | > | > | > | Luella Cruz > | > | > | > | Hotel Hoksbergen said: > | > | > Hello, > | > | > Thanks for your emails. Only we got serveral telling different > things. | > | > could you please clarify what > | > | > you finally need? > | > | > You can see pictures of the apartments at our website. Number > 18 > and | > 19 > | > | > would be available. (3rd and > | > | > 4th floor) > | > | > Best regards, > | > | > Xia / Bruno / Bert > | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen > | > | > Singel 301 > | > | > 1012 WH Amsterdam > | > | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 > | > | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 > | > | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl > | > | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- > | > | > From: "Luella Cruz" > | > | > To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" > | > | > Cc: ; > | > | > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 10:24 AM > | > | > Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > | Dear Xia, Bruno or Bert: > | > | > | > | > | > | I am very interested in confirming my reservation for the 2 > 4-person | > | > | apartments, but I do request further information > regarding the 2 | > places > | > | > to > | > | > | sleep in the living room. Can you describe in more detail > the | >> sleeping > | > | > | area in the living room? Is the sleeping area equivalent to a > twin | > or a > | > | > | double? Perhaps you have a picture that is accessible > online? | >> | > | > | > | > | Once we have further information regarding the sleeping area > I > will | > be > | > | > | able to supply a credit card with expiry date within 24 hours > via | > fax. > | > | > | > | > | > | Also, please reply to not only myself but to rob@eorbit.net > as > well. | > | > | > | > | > | Thank you. > | > | > | > | > | > | Sincerely, > | > | > | > | > | > | Luella Cruz > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Hotel Hoksbergen said: > | > | > | > Dear Mrs. Luella Cruz, > | > | > | > > | > | > | > Thank you for your email/fax through Bookings. > | > | > | > Requested 2 apartments for 4 persons each (8 persons: 4 > indiviuals | > and > | > | > 2 > | > | > | > couples) ARE available for > | > | > | > 8 nights starting 22-11-2003. > | > | > | > The price is EUR 120,00 per night including all taxes. | > > | > > | > All our (self-catering) apartments have 1 big living-room with 2 | > > | >> places to > | > | > | > sleep, 1 bed-room with 2 > | > | > | > more places to sleep (bedsheets provided), bath > (bath-towels | >> | > provided), > | > | > | > wc, fully fournished open > | > | > | > kitchen (including microwave). > | > | > | > Our apartment-house is situated right in the center of > beautiful | > | > Amsterdam > | > | > | > in a street between the > | > | > | > Singel and Herengracht close to the Dam square with the > Royal > | > Palace. > | > | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen is renting out the apartments, and that is > the | > place > | > | > to > | > | > | > check in, pay the full > | > | > | > bill, pick up your key, and walk the last 200 meter to > your | >> apartment, > | > | > to > | > | > | > start your holiday in > | > | > | > Amsterdam. > | > | > | > We are at only 3 tram-stops from the train-station, and > have > also | > a > | > | > stop > | > | > | > of the direct bus from the > | > | > | > airport nearby. > | > | > | > All places of touristical interest are in walking > distance. | >> | > | > For any further information, please check our website. | > | >> > | >> For reservations, please send us a valid credit-card-number with | > >> | > > expiry > | > | > | > date as a guarantee as soon > | > | > | > as possible. Preferably before 12-10-2003. We thank you for > this | > in > | > | > | > advance, and look forward to > | > | > | > your message. > | > | > | > > | > | > | > Best regards, > | > | > | > Xia / Bruno / Bert > | > | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen > | > | > | > Singel 301 > | > | > | > 1012 WH Amsterdam > | > | > | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 > | > | > | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 > | > | > | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl > | > | > | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl > | > | > | > > | > | > | > > | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > > | > | > | > > | > > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net From mako@eorbit.net Fri Dec 19 11:43:26 2003 Received: from eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hBJJhPts020127 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:43:26 -0800 Received: from 66.235.39.120 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mako) by eorbit.net with HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:43:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1677.66.235.39.120.1071863006.squirrel@eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <370C317C-3190-11D8-B9B4-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> References: <3334.10.200.2.164.1071772761.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <370C317C-3190-11D8-B9B4-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:43:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] [Fwd: Reservation 2003-11-22] From: mako@eorbit.net To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:43:28 -0000 Ok. I hate being a fucking accountant but here goes. The 1920 euros has been consistent on the reservation and the receipt that I have. After going back through all the amsterdam mail I have I found one thing I forgot about and I guess no else remembered either. A 5% charge for using the credit card in the first place. I'm in Seattle and I don't have the conversion rate in front of me but I seem to recall 1.20 something. So here we go. Try to follow me. 1920euros * 5%= 96euros. 1920 + 96= 2016 euros. Then we had a 1% charge by mastercard international. 2016 * 1%= 20.16. 2016 + 20.16= 2036.16euros. The charge on my credit card was $2486.02. $2486.02/2036.16= 1.2209 or 2036.16 * 1.20=$2443.39. That's the closest I can come up with at the moment. Luella, do you remember the amount of the check you gave me? I have a deposit of $2233 on 11/17, but I thought I made two separate deposits that day and I think BofA may have combined them on my online statement(the other deposit was less than $20). Was the check for equal amounts from all 8 people? If that amount is correct with 8 equal amounts then $2486.02 - $2233= $253.02. $253.02/8= $31.63 per person except for Zannie and Dan whom I owe money to. Zannie $31.63 - $16= 15.63 Dan $31.63 - $5= $26.63. Let me know if that jives with everyone. I'm going to back to my vacation now. b > Eeeek. OK, Ben, can you please figure out what people owe you and then > post that? Lets just get this done and taken care of. > > > On Thursday, December 18, 2003, at 10:39 AM, Luella Cruz wrote: > >> Here's the "invoice". I guess the conversion rate was reallu sucky... >> >> >> ---------------------------- Original Message >> ---------------------------- >> Subject: Reservation 2003-11-22 >> From: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >> Date: Thu, December 18, 2003 6:21 am >> To: "Luella Cruz" >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> >> Dear Mrs. L. Cruz, >> >> Thank you for your visit. We herewith send you the invoice for the >> following reservation made by you: >> >> Name guest(s): Mrs. L. Cruz >> Date of arrival: 22-11-2003 >> Date of departure: 30-11-2003 >> Number of nights: 8 >> Type of rooms: 2 apartments for 4 persons each. >> Price per room per night: EUR 120,00 >> Total bill: EUR 1.920,00 >> Contactpersons: Xia/Bruno/Bert >> >> We thank you for the payment that we already have received from you. >> >> Best regards, >> Xia / Bruno / Bert >> Hotel Hoksbergen >> Singel 301 >> 1012 WH Amsterdam >> Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >> Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >> Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >> Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Luella Cruz" >> To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >> Cc: >> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:50 AM >> Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 >> >> >> | Dear Hotel Hoksbergen, >> | >> | I was wondering if you would be able to provide a copy of itemized >> charges | for the referenced reservation. You can fax to 1.805.528.0971 >> (USA) or | email. >> | >> | Thank you, >> | >> | Luella Cruz >> | >> | Hotel Hoksbergen said: >> | > Dear Luella Cruz. >> | > Thank you for your fax and email. We herewith confirm the >> following | >>> reservation made by you: >> | > Name guest(s): Mrs. L. Cruz >> | > Date of arrival: 22. november 2003 >> | > Check-in time: Please check in between 08.00-22.00 o'clock at >> Hotel | >>> Hoksbergen at 200 meter of our >> | > Gasthuismolensteeg 10 apartment house. Apartments are ready around >> 14.00 | > o'clock. >> | > We kindly request you to settle your bill at arrival. Ways of >> payment >> pls | > see below. >> | > Date of departure: 30. november 2003 >> | > Check-out time: 10.30 o'clock, but you can leave your luggage at >> Hotel >> | > Hoksbergen as long as you >> | > wish >> | > Number of nights: 8 >> | > Type of apartment: 2 apartments for 4 persons with privat >> | > bath/wc/television/fully fournished open >> | > kitchen (self-catering, no phone) >> | > Price per apt per night: EUR 120,00 >> | > Total bill: EUR 960 x 2 = Euro 1920,00 >> | > Guarantee: Creditcardnumber of Mr. Robert Kaye received by fax, >> thank >> you | > very much. >> | > Contactpersons: Xia/Bruno/Bert >> | > >> | > 1 - Transportation to our hotel by public transport and by car, >> and | >>> approximate prices: >> | > * From the airport 'Schiphol': (1) Taxi to hotel: EUR 35,00 (FIXED >> PRICE | > WITH TCA). (2) Airport >> | > Hotel Shuttle from gate A7 to NH - City-Centre-Hotel - Spui, 200 >> meters | > from us: EUR 10,00. (3) >> | > Train to train-station: EUR 4,- p p >> | > * From train-station to hotel: (1) Taxi EUR 7,50. (2) Tram 1, 2 or >> 5: >> 3rd | > stop called 'Spui' EUR >> | > 1,70 >> | > 2 - The credit-card you have given just serves as a guarantee. You >> can >> pay | > your bill also in other >> | > ways. >> | > If you wish to pay your bill with credit-card please note that we >> will >> | > have to charge you 5% extra >> | > as administration-costs. We accept traveller's checks in EURO >> without >> | > extra costs. >> | > 3 - Reservations are made following the Uniform Conditions of the >> | > >> Federation Horeca. Which means >> | > that if you unfortunately have to cancel the res, the costs are 0% >> of >> the | > price of 1 night if have >> | > to you cancel up to 2 weeks before arrival, 50% of 1 night if you >> have >> to | > cancel between 2 weeks and >> | > 1 week before arrival, 80% of 1 night if you have to cancel >> between 1 >> week | > and 48 hours before >> | > arrival, and 100% of 1 night after 48 hours before arrival. >> | > >> | > We thank you for this reservation and we look forward to welcoming >> you >> on | > your date of arrival. >> | > >> | > Best regards, >> | > Xia / Bruno / Bert >> | > Hotel Hoksbergen >> | > Singel 301 >> | > 1012 WH Amsterdam >> | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >> | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >> | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >> | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > ----- Original Message ----- >> | > From: "Luella Cruz" >> | > To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >> | > Cc: ; >> | > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 5:11 AM >> | > Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 >> | > >> | > >> | > | Dear Xia, Bert and Bruno: >> | > | >> | > | I apologize for the confusing emails. >> | > | >> | > | I viewed the pictures on the website and I am very satisfied with >> the | > | arrangement. I will be able to fax you a credit card and >> expiry >> date | > | immediately. Please confirm receipt of the fax via email. >> Thank >> you. | > | >> | > | Sincerely, >> | > | >> | > | Luella Cruz >> | > | >> | > | Hotel Hoksbergen said: >> | > | > Hello, >> | > | > Thanks for your emails. Only we got serveral telling different >> things. | > | > could you please clarify what >> | > | > you finally need? >> | > | > You can see pictures of the apartments at our website. Number >> 18 >> and | > 19 >> | > | > would be available. (3rd and >> | > | > 4th floor) >> | > | > Best regards, >> | > | > Xia / Bruno / Bert >> | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen >> | > | > Singel 301 >> | > | > 1012 WH Amsterdam >> | > | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >> | > | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >> | > | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >> | > | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >> | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > ----- Original Message ----- >> | > | > From: "Luella Cruz" >> | > | > To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >> | > | > Cc: ; >> | > | > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 10:24 AM >> | > | > Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 >> | > | > >> | > | > >> | > | > | Dear Xia, Bruno or Bert: >> | > | > | >> | > | > | I am very interested in confirming my reservation for the 2 >> 4-person | > | > | apartments, but I do request further information >> regarding the 2 | > places >> | > | > to >> | > | > | sleep in the living room. Can you describe in more detail >> the | >>> sleeping >> | > | > | area in the living room? Is the sleeping area equivalent to a >> twin | > or a >> | > | > | double? Perhaps you have a picture that is accessible >> online? | >>> | > | >> | > | > | Once we have further information regarding the sleeping area >> I >> will | > be >> | > | > | able to supply a credit card with expiry date within 24 hours >> via | > fax. >> | > | > | >> | > | > | Also, please reply to not only myself but to rob@eorbit.net >> as >> well. | > | > | >> | > | > | Thank you. >> | > | > | >> | > | > | Sincerely, >> | > | > | >> | > | > | Luella Cruz >> | > | > | >> | > | > | >> | > | > | Hotel Hoksbergen said: >> | > | > | > Dear Mrs. Luella Cruz, >> | > | > | > >> | > | > | > Thank you for your email/fax through Bookings. >> | > | > | > Requested 2 apartments for 4 persons each (8 persons: 4 >> indiviuals | > and >> | > | > 2 >> | > | > | > couples) ARE available for >> | > | > | > 8 nights starting 22-11-2003. >> | > | > | > The price is EUR 120,00 per night including all taxes. | > >> | > >> | > All our (self-catering) apartments have 1 big living-room with 2 | >> > | >>> places to >> | > | > | > sleep, 1 bed-room with 2 >> | > | > | > more places to sleep (bedsheets provided), bath >> (bath-towels | >>> | > provided), >> | > | > | > wc, fully fournished open >> | > | > | > kitchen (including microwave). >> | > | > | > Our apartment-house is situated right in the center of >> beautiful | > | > Amsterdam >> | > | > | > in a street between the >> | > | > | > Singel and Herengracht close to the Dam square with the >> Royal >> | > Palace. >> | > | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen is renting out the apartments, and that is >> the | > place >> | > | > to >> | > | > | > check in, pay the full >> | > | > | > bill, pick up your key, and walk the last 200 meter to >> your | >>> apartment, >> | > | > to >> | > | > | > start your holiday in >> | > | > | > Amsterdam. >> | > | > | > We are at only 3 tram-stops from the train-station, and >> have >> also | > a >> | > | > stop >> | > | > | > of the direct bus from the >> | > | > | > airport nearby. >> | > | > | > All places of touristical interest are in walking >> distance. | >>> | > | > For any further information, please check our website. | > | >>> > | >>> For reservations, please send us a valid credit-card-number with | > >>> | > >> expiry >> | > | > | > date as a guarantee as soon >> | > | > | > as possible. Preferably before 12-10-2003. We thank you for >> this | > in >> | > | > | > advance, and look forward to >> | > | > | > your message. >> | > | > | > >> | > | > | > Best regards, >> | > | > | > Xia / Bruno / Bert >> | > | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen >> | > | > | > Singel 301 >> | > | > | > 1012 WH Amsterdam >> | > | > | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >> | > | > | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >> | > | > | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >> | > | > | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >> | > | > | > >> | > | > | > >> | > | > | > >> | > | > | >> | > | > >> | > | >> | > >> | >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ams mailing list >> ams@eorbit.net >> http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams >> > -- > > --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. > > Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > From luella@eorbit.net Sun Dec 21 21:29:53 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hBM5TrtZ016231 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:29:53 -0800 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:29:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1795.10.200.2.164.1072070993.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1677.66.235.39.120.1071863006.squirrel@eorbit.net> References: <3334.10.200.2.164.1071772761.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <370C317C-3190-11D8-B9B4-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> <1677.66.235.39.120.1071863006.squirrel@eorbit.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:29:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] [Fwd: Reservation 2003-11-22] From: "Luella Cruz" To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 05:29:54 -0000 No, that check wasn't in equal parts...it had the little extra from Martin and I for the 5% increase. If I can remember correctly, we all owed you $15 each. I can let you know how much the check was tomorrow. If everyone already paid you the $15, we just need to pay for the conversions and the conversion fee that your credit card charged. ~lu mako@eorbit.net said: > Ok. I hate being a fucking accountant but here goes. The 1920 euros has > been consistent on the reservation and the receipt that I have. After > going back through all the amsterdam mail I have I found one thing I > forgot about and I guess no else remembered either. A 5% charge for using > the credit card in the first place. I'm in Seattle and I don't have the > conversion rate in front of me but I seem to recall 1.20 something. So > here we go. Try to follow me. 1920euros * 5%= 96euros. 1920 + 96= 2016 > euros. Then we had a 1% charge by mastercard international. 2016 * 1%= > 20.16. 2016 + 20.16= 2036.16euros. The charge on my credit card was > $2486.02. $2486.02/2036.16= 1.2209 or 2036.16 * 1.20=$2443.39. That's > the closest I can come up with at the moment. Luella, do you remember the > amount of the check you gave me? I have a deposit of $2233 on 11/17, but > I thought I made two separate deposits that day and I think BofA may have > combined them on my online statement(the other deposit was less than $20). > Was the check for equal amounts from all 8 people? If that amount is > correct with 8 equal amounts then $2486.02 - $2233= $253.02. $253.02/8= > $31.63 per person except for Zannie and Dan whom I owe money to. Zannie > $31.63 - $16= 15.63 Dan $31.63 - $5= $26.63. > > Let me know if that jives with everyone. I'm going to back to my vacation > now. > > b > >> Eeeek. OK, Ben, can you please figure out what people owe you and then >> post that? Lets just get this done and taken care of. >> >> >> On Thursday, December 18, 2003, at 10:39 AM, Luella Cruz wrote: >> >>> Here's the "invoice". I guess the conversion rate was reallu sucky... >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------- Original Message >>> ---------------------------- >>> Subject: Reservation 2003-11-22 >>> From: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >>> Date: Thu, December 18, 2003 6:21 am >>> To: "Luella Cruz" >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> --- >>> >>> Dear Mrs. L. Cruz, >>> >>> Thank you for your visit. We herewith send you the invoice for the >>> following reservation made by you: >>> >>> Name guest(s): Mrs. L. Cruz >>> Date of arrival: 22-11-2003 >>> Date of departure: 30-11-2003 >>> Number of nights: 8 >>> Type of rooms: 2 apartments for 4 persons each. >>> Price per room per night: EUR 120,00 >>> Total bill: EUR 1.920,00 >>> Contactpersons: Xia/Bruno/Bert >>> >>> We thank you for the payment that we already have received from you. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Xia / Bruno / Bert >>> Hotel Hoksbergen >>> Singel 301 >>> 1012 WH Amsterdam >>> Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >>> Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >>> Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >>> Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Luella Cruz" >>> To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:50 AM >>> Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 >>> >>> >>> | Dear Hotel Hoksbergen, >>> | >>> | I was wondering if you would be able to provide a copy of itemized >>> charges | for the referenced reservation. You can fax to 1.805.528.0971 >>> (USA) or | email. >>> | >>> | Thank you, >>> | >>> | Luella Cruz >>> | >>> | Hotel Hoksbergen said: >>> | > Dear Luella Cruz. >>> | > Thank you for your fax and email. We herewith confirm the >>> following | >>>> reservation made by you: >>> | > Name guest(s): Mrs. L. Cruz >>> | > Date of arrival: 22. november 2003 >>> | > Check-in time: Please check in between 08.00-22.00 o'clock at >>> Hotel | >>>> Hoksbergen at 200 meter of our >>> | > Gasthuismolensteeg 10 apartment house. Apartments are ready around >>> 14.00 | > o'clock. >>> | > We kindly request you to settle your bill at arrival. Ways of >>> payment >>> pls | > see below. >>> | > Date of departure: 30. november 2003 >>> | > Check-out time: 10.30 o'clock, but you can leave your luggage at >>> Hotel >>> | > Hoksbergen as long as you >>> | > wish >>> | > Number of nights: 8 >>> | > Type of apartment: 2 apartments for 4 persons with privat >>> | > bath/wc/television/fully fournished open >>> | > kitchen (self-catering, no phone) >>> | > Price per apt per night: EUR 120,00 >>> | > Total bill: EUR 960 x 2 = Euro 1920,00 >>> | > Guarantee: Creditcardnumber of Mr. Robert Kaye received by fax, >>> thank >>> you | > very much. >>> | > Contactpersons: Xia/Bruno/Bert >>> | > >>> | > 1 - Transportation to our hotel by public transport and by car, >>> and | >>>> approximate prices: >>> | > * From the airport 'Schiphol': (1) Taxi to hotel: EUR 35,00 (FIXED >>> PRICE | > WITH TCA). (2) Airport >>> | > Hotel Shuttle from gate A7 to NH - City-Centre-Hotel - Spui, 200 >>> meters | > from us: EUR 10,00. (3) >>> | > Train to train-station: EUR 4,- p p >>> | > * From train-station to hotel: (1) Taxi EUR 7,50. (2) Tram 1, 2 or >>> 5: >>> 3rd | > stop called 'Spui' EUR >>> | > 1,70 >>> | > 2 - The credit-card you have given just serves as a guarantee. You >>> can >>> pay | > your bill also in other >>> | > ways. >>> | > If you wish to pay your bill with credit-card please note that we >>> will >>> | > have to charge you 5% extra >>> | > as administration-costs. We accept traveller's checks in EURO >>> without >>> | > extra costs. >>> | > 3 - Reservations are made following the Uniform Conditions of the >>> | > >>> Federation Horeca. Which means >>> | > that if you unfortunately have to cancel the res, the costs are 0% >>> of >>> the | > price of 1 night if have >>> | > to you cancel up to 2 weeks before arrival, 50% of 1 night if you >>> have >>> to | > cancel between 2 weeks and >>> | > 1 week before arrival, 80% of 1 night if you have to cancel >>> between 1 >>> week | > and 48 hours before >>> | > arrival, and 100% of 1 night after 48 hours before arrival. >>> | > >>> | > We thank you for this reservation and we look forward to welcoming >>> you >>> on | > your date of arrival. >>> | > >>> | > Best regards, >>> | > Xia / Bruno / Bert >>> | > Hotel Hoksbergen >>> | > Singel 301 >>> | > 1012 WH Amsterdam >>> | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >>> | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >>> | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >>> | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >>> | > >>> | > >>> | > >>> | > ----- Original Message ----- >>> | > From: "Luella Cruz" >>> | > To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >>> | > Cc: ; >>> | > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 5:11 AM >>> | > Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 >>> | > >>> | > >>> | > | Dear Xia, Bert and Bruno: >>> | > | >>> | > | I apologize for the confusing emails. >>> | > | >>> | > | I viewed the pictures on the website and I am very satisfied with >>> the | > | arrangement. I will be able to fax you a credit card and >>> expiry >>> date | > | immediately. Please confirm receipt of the fax via email. >>> Thank >>> you. | > | >>> | > | Sincerely, >>> | > | >>> | > | Luella Cruz >>> | > | >>> | > | Hotel Hoksbergen said: >>> | > | > Hello, >>> | > | > Thanks for your emails. Only we got serveral telling different >>> things. | > | > could you please clarify what >>> | > | > you finally need? >>> | > | > You can see pictures of the apartments at our website. Number >>> 18 >>> and | > 19 >>> | > | > would be available. (3rd and >>> | > | > 4th floor) >>> | > | > Best regards, >>> | > | > Xia / Bruno / Bert >>> | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen >>> | > | > Singel 301 >>> | > | > 1012 WH Amsterdam >>> | > | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >>> | > | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >>> | > | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >>> | > | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >>> | > | > >>> | > | > >>> | > | > >>> | > | > ----- Original Message ----- >>> | > | > From: "Luella Cruz" >>> | > | > To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >>> | > | > Cc: ; >>> | > | > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 10:24 AM >>> | > | > Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 >>> | > | > >>> | > | > >>> | > | > | Dear Xia, Bruno or Bert: >>> | > | > | >>> | > | > | I am very interested in confirming my reservation for the 2 >>> 4-person | > | > | apartments, but I do request further information >>> regarding the 2 | > places >>> | > | > to >>> | > | > | sleep in the living room. Can you describe in more detail >>> the | >>>> sleeping >>> | > | > | area in the living room? Is the sleeping area equivalent to a >>> twin | > or a >>> | > | > | double? Perhaps you have a picture that is accessible >>> online? | >>>> | > | >>> | > | > | Once we have further information regarding the sleeping area >>> I >>> will | > be >>> | > | > | able to supply a credit card with expiry date within 24 hours >>> via | > fax. >>> | > | > | >>> | > | > | Also, please reply to not only myself but to rob@eorbit.net >>> as >>> well. | > | > | >>> | > | > | Thank you. >>> | > | > | >>> | > | > | Sincerely, >>> | > | > | >>> | > | > | Luella Cruz >>> | > | > | >>> | > | > | >>> | > | > | Hotel Hoksbergen said: >>> | > | > | > Dear Mrs. Luella Cruz, >>> | > | > | > >>> | > | > | > Thank you for your email/fax through Bookings. >>> | > | > | > Requested 2 apartments for 4 persons each (8 persons: 4 >>> indiviuals | > and >>> | > | > 2 >>> | > | > | > couples) ARE available for >>> | > | > | > 8 nights starting 22-11-2003. >>> | > | > | > The price is EUR 120,00 per night including all taxes. | > >>> | > >>> | > All our (self-catering) apartments have 1 big living-room with 2 | >>> > | >>>> places to >>> | > | > | > sleep, 1 bed-room with 2 >>> | > | > | > more places to sleep (bedsheets provided), bath >>> (bath-towels | >>>> | > provided), >>> | > | > | > wc, fully fournished open >>> | > | > | > kitchen (including microwave). >>> | > | > | > Our apartment-house is situated right in the center of >>> beautiful | > | > Amsterdam >>> | > | > | > in a street between the >>> | > | > | > Singel and Herengracht close to the Dam square with the >>> Royal >>> | > Palace. >>> | > | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen is renting out the apartments, and that is >>> the | > place >>> | > | > to >>> | > | > | > check in, pay the full >>> | > | > | > bill, pick up your key, and walk the last 200 meter to >>> your | >>>> apartment, >>> | > | > to >>> | > | > | > start your holiday in >>> | > | > | > Amsterdam. >>> | > | > | > We are at only 3 tram-stops from the train-station, and >>> have >>> also | > a >>> | > | > stop >>> | > | > | > of the direct bus from the >>> | > | > | > airport nearby. >>> | > | > | > All places of touristical interest are in walking >>> distance. | >>>> | > | > For any further information, please check our website. | > | >>>> > | >>>> For reservations, please send us a valid credit-card-number with | > >>>> | > >>> expiry >>> | > | > | > date as a guarantee as soon >>> | > | > | > as possible. Preferably before 12-10-2003. We thank you for >>> this | > in >>> | > | > | > advance, and look forward to >>> | > | > | > your message. >>> | > | > | > >>> | > | > | > Best regards, >>> | > | > | > Xia / Bruno / Bert >>> | > | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen >>> | > | > | > Singel 301 >>> | > | > | > 1012 WH Amsterdam >>> | > | > | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >>> | > | > | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >>> | > | > | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >>> | > | > | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >>> | > | > | > >>> | > | > | > >>> | > | > | > >>> | > | > | >>> | > | > >>> | > | >>> | > >>> | >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ams mailing list >>> ams@eorbit.net >>> http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams >>> >> -- >> >> --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. >> >> Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ams mailing list >> ams@eorbit.net >> http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams >> > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > From dan@eorbit.net Sun Dec 21 22:38:52 2003 Received: from mango4v7fy9v9c (adsl-63-194-101-12.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net [63.194.101.12]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hBM6cqtZ017603 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:38:52 -0800 Message-ID: <009901c3c856$43a2a0e0$c502c80a@mango4v7fy9v9c> From: "Dan Gross" To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:38:52 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0096_01C3C813.3557B4A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: [ams] Money and memory X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 06:38:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0096_01C3C813.3557B4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a great memory, but I forgot where I put it. Just wanting to = make sure I give money to anybody I owe it too, and can't remember if I = owe anyone but $26.63 to Ben. If I owe you dough, let me know :) -D ------=_NextPart_000_0096_01C3C813.3557B4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I have a great memory, but I forgot = where I put=20 it.  Just wanting to make sure I give money to anybody I owe it = too, and=20 can't remember if I owe anyone but $26.63 to Ben.  If I owe you = dough, let=20 me know :)  -D
    ------=_NextPart_000_0096_01C3C813.3557B4A0-- From mako@eorbit.net Mon Dec 22 10:19:47 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hBMIJktZ001021 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:19:46 -0800 Received: from 66.235.39.120 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mako) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:19:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1066.66.235.39.120.1072117186.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1795.10.200.2.164.1072070993.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <3334.10.200.2.164.1071772761.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <370C317C-3190-11D8-B9B4-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> <1677.66.235.39.120.1071863006.squirrel@eorbit.net> <1795.10.200.2.164.1072070993.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:19:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] [Fwd: Reservation 2003-11-22] From: mako@eorbit.net To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:19:48 -0000 I only money I ever received was the one check Luella gave to me. b > No, that check wasn't in equal parts...it had the little extra from Martin > and I for the 5% increase. If I can remember correctly, we all owed you > $15 each. I can let you know how much the check was tomorrow. If everyone > already paid you the $15, we just need to pay for the conversions and the > conversion fee that your credit card charged. > ~lu > > mako@eorbit.net said: >> Ok. I hate being a fucking accountant but here goes. The 1920 euros >> has >> been consistent on the reservation and the receipt that I have. After >> going back through all the amsterdam mail I have I found one thing I >> forgot about and I guess no else remembered either. A 5% charge for >> using >> the credit card in the first place. I'm in Seattle and I don't have the >> conversion rate in front of me but I seem to recall 1.20 something. So >> here we go. Try to follow me. 1920euros * 5%= 96euros. 1920 + 96= >> 2016 >> euros. Then we had a 1% charge by mastercard international. 2016 * 1%= >> 20.16. 2016 + 20.16= 2036.16euros. The charge on my credit card was >> $2486.02. $2486.02/2036.16= 1.2209 or 2036.16 * 1.20=$2443.39. That's >> the closest I can come up with at the moment. Luella, do you remember >> the >> amount of the check you gave me? I have a deposit of $2233 on 11/17, >> but >> I thought I made two separate deposits that day and I think BofA may >> have >> combined them on my online statement(the other deposit was less than >> $20). >> Was the check for equal amounts from all 8 people? If that amount is >> correct with 8 equal amounts then $2486.02 - $2233= $253.02. $253.02/8= >> $31.63 per person except for Zannie and Dan whom I owe money to. Zannie >> $31.63 - $16= 15.63 Dan $31.63 - $5= $26.63. >> >> Let me know if that jives with everyone. I'm going to back to my >> vacation >> now. >> >> b >> >>> Eeeek. OK, Ben, can you please figure out what people owe you and then >>> post that? Lets just get this done and taken care of. >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, December 18, 2003, at 10:39 AM, Luella Cruz wrote: >>> >>>> Here's the "invoice". I guess the conversion rate was reallu sucky... >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------- Original Message >>>> ---------------------------- >>>> Subject: Reservation 2003-11-22 >>>> From: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >>>> Date: Thu, December 18, 2003 6:21 am >>>> To: "Luella Cruz" >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> --- >>>> >>>> Dear Mrs. L. Cruz, >>>> >>>> Thank you for your visit. We herewith send you the invoice for the >>>> following reservation made by you: >>>> >>>> Name guest(s): Mrs. L. Cruz >>>> Date of arrival: 22-11-2003 >>>> Date of departure: 30-11-2003 >>>> Number of nights: 8 >>>> Type of rooms: 2 apartments for 4 persons each. >>>> Price per room per night: EUR 120,00 >>>> Total bill: EUR 1.920,00 >>>> Contactpersons: Xia/Bruno/Bert >>>> >>>> We thank you for the payment that we already have received from you. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Xia / Bruno / Bert >>>> Hotel Hoksbergen >>>> Singel 301 >>>> 1012 WH Amsterdam >>>> Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >>>> Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >>>> Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>> Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Luella Cruz" >>>> To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >>>> Cc: >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:50 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 >>>> >>>> >>>> | Dear Hotel Hoksbergen, >>>> | >>>> | I was wondering if you would be able to provide a copy of itemized >>>> charges | for the referenced reservation. You can fax to >>>> 1.805.528.0971 >>>> (USA) or | email. >>>> | >>>> | Thank you, >>>> | >>>> | Luella Cruz >>>> | >>>> | Hotel Hoksbergen said: >>>> | > Dear Luella Cruz. >>>> | > Thank you for your fax and email. We herewith confirm the >>>> following | >>>>> reservation made by you: >>>> | > Name guest(s): Mrs. L. Cruz >>>> | > Date of arrival: 22. november 2003 >>>> | > Check-in time: Please check in between 08.00-22.00 o'clock at >>>> Hotel | >>>>> Hoksbergen at 200 meter of our >>>> | > Gasthuismolensteeg 10 apartment house. Apartments are ready around >>>> 14.00 | > o'clock. >>>> | > We kindly request you to settle your bill at arrival. Ways of >>>> payment >>>> pls | > see below. >>>> | > Date of departure: 30. november 2003 >>>> | > Check-out time: 10.30 o'clock, but you can leave your luggage at >>>> Hotel >>>> | > Hoksbergen as long as you >>>> | > wish >>>> | > Number of nights: 8 >>>> | > Type of apartment: 2 apartments for 4 persons with privat >>>> | > bath/wc/television/fully fournished open >>>> | > kitchen (self-catering, no phone) >>>> | > Price per apt per night: EUR 120,00 >>>> | > Total bill: EUR 960 x 2 = Euro 1920,00 >>>> | > Guarantee: Creditcardnumber of Mr. Robert Kaye received by fax, >>>> thank >>>> you | > very much. >>>> | > Contactpersons: Xia/Bruno/Bert >>>> | > >>>> | > 1 - Transportation to our hotel by public transport and by car, >>>> and | >>>>> approximate prices: >>>> | > * From the airport 'Schiphol': (1) Taxi to hotel: EUR 35,00 (FIXED >>>> PRICE | > WITH TCA). (2) Airport >>>> | > Hotel Shuttle from gate A7 to NH - City-Centre-Hotel - Spui, 200 >>>> meters | > from us: EUR 10,00. (3) >>>> | > Train to train-station: EUR 4,- p p >>>> | > * From train-station to hotel: (1) Taxi EUR 7,50. (2) Tram 1, 2 or >>>> 5: >>>> 3rd | > stop called 'Spui' EUR >>>> | > 1,70 >>>> | > 2 - The credit-card you have given just serves as a guarantee. You >>>> can >>>> pay | > your bill also in other >>>> | > ways. >>>> | > If you wish to pay your bill with credit-card please note that we >>>> will >>>> | > have to charge you 5% extra >>>> | > as administration-costs. We accept traveller's checks in EURO >>>> without >>>> | > extra costs. >>>> | > 3 - Reservations are made following the Uniform Conditions of the >>>> | > >>>> Federation Horeca. Which means >>>> | > that if you unfortunately have to cancel the res, the costs are 0% >>>> of >>>> the | > price of 1 night if have >>>> | > to you cancel up to 2 weeks before arrival, 50% of 1 night if you >>>> have >>>> to | > cancel between 2 weeks and >>>> | > 1 week before arrival, 80% of 1 night if you have to cancel >>>> between 1 >>>> week | > and 48 hours before >>>> | > arrival, and 100% of 1 night after 48 hours before arrival. >>>> | > >>>> | > We thank you for this reservation and we look forward to welcoming >>>> you >>>> on | > your date of arrival. >>>> | > >>>> | > Best regards, >>>> | > Xia / Bruno / Bert >>>> | > Hotel Hoksbergen >>>> | > Singel 301 >>>> | > 1012 WH Amsterdam >>>> | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >>>> | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >>>> | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>> | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>> | > >>>> | > >>>> | > >>>> | > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> | > From: "Luella Cruz" >>>> | > To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >>>> | > Cc: ; >>>> | > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 5:11 AM >>>> | > Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 >>>> | > >>>> | > >>>> | > | Dear Xia, Bert and Bruno: >>>> | > | >>>> | > | I apologize for the confusing emails. >>>> | > | >>>> | > | I viewed the pictures on the website and I am very satisfied >>>> with >>>> the | > | arrangement. I will be able to fax you a credit card and >>>> expiry >>>> date | > | immediately. Please confirm receipt of the fax via email. >>>> Thank >>>> you. | > | >>>> | > | Sincerely, >>>> | > | >>>> | > | Luella Cruz >>>> | > | >>>> | > | Hotel Hoksbergen said: >>>> | > | > Hello, >>>> | > | > Thanks for your emails. Only we got serveral telling different >>>> things. | > | > could you please clarify what >>>> | > | > you finally need? >>>> | > | > You can see pictures of the apartments at our website. Number >>>> 18 >>>> and | > 19 >>>> | > | > would be available. (3rd and >>>> | > | > 4th floor) >>>> | > | > Best regards, >>>> | > | > Xia / Bruno / Bert >>>> | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen >>>> | > | > Singel 301 >>>> | > | > 1012 WH Amsterdam >>>> | > | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >>>> | > | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >>>> | > | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>> | > | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>> | > | > >>>> | > | > >>>> | > | > >>>> | > | > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> | > | > From: "Luella Cruz" >>>> | > | > To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >>>> | > | > Cc: ; >>>> | > | > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 10:24 AM >>>> | > | > Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 >>>> | > | > >>>> | > | > >>>> | > | > | Dear Xia, Bruno or Bert: >>>> | > | > | >>>> | > | > | I am very interested in confirming my reservation for the 2 >>>> 4-person | > | > | apartments, but I do request further information >>>> regarding the 2 | > places >>>> | > | > to >>>> | > | > | sleep in the living room. Can you describe in more detail >>>> the | >>>>> sleeping >>>> | > | > | area in the living room? Is the sleeping area equivalent to >>>> a >>>> twin | > or a >>>> | > | > | double? Perhaps you have a picture that is accessible >>>> online? | >>>>> | > | >>>> | > | > | Once we have further information regarding the sleeping area >>>> I >>>> will | > be >>>> | > | > | able to supply a credit card with expiry date within 24 >>>> hours >>>> via | > fax. >>>> | > | > | >>>> | > | > | Also, please reply to not only myself but to rob@eorbit.net >>>> as >>>> well. | > | > | >>>> | > | > | Thank you. >>>> | > | > | >>>> | > | > | Sincerely, >>>> | > | > | >>>> | > | > | Luella Cruz >>>> | > | > | >>>> | > | > | >>>> | > | > | Hotel Hoksbergen said: >>>> | > | > | > Dear Mrs. Luella Cruz, >>>> | > | > | > >>>> | > | > | > Thank you for your email/fax through Bookings. >>>> | > | > | > Requested 2 apartments for 4 persons each (8 persons: 4 >>>> indiviuals | > and >>>> | > | > 2 >>>> | > | > | > couples) ARE available for >>>> | > | > | > 8 nights starting 22-11-2003. >>>> | > | > | > The price is EUR 120,00 per night including all taxes. | > >>>> | > >>>> | > All our (self-catering) apartments have 1 big living-room with 2 | >>>> > | >>>>> places to >>>> | > | > | > sleep, 1 bed-room with 2 >>>> | > | > | > more places to sleep (bedsheets provided), bath >>>> (bath-towels | >>>>> | > provided), >>>> | > | > | > wc, fully fournished open >>>> | > | > | > kitchen (including microwave). >>>> | > | > | > Our apartment-house is situated right in the center of >>>> beautiful | > | > Amsterdam >>>> | > | > | > in a street between the >>>> | > | > | > Singel and Herengracht close to the Dam square with the >>>> Royal >>>> | > Palace. >>>> | > | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen is renting out the apartments, and that >>>> is >>>> the | > place >>>> | > | > to >>>> | > | > | > check in, pay the full >>>> | > | > | > bill, pick up your key, and walk the last 200 meter to >>>> your | >>>>> apartment, >>>> | > | > to >>>> | > | > | > start your holiday in >>>> | > | > | > Amsterdam. >>>> | > | > | > We are at only 3 tram-stops from the train-station, and >>>> have >>>> also | > a >>>> | > | > stop >>>> | > | > | > of the direct bus from the >>>> | > | > | > airport nearby. >>>> | > | > | > All places of touristical interest are in walking >>>> distance. | >>>>> | > | > For any further information, please check our website. | > | >>>>> > | >>>>> For reservations, please send us a valid credit-card-number with | > >>>>> | > >>>> expiry >>>> | > | > | > date as a guarantee as soon >>>> | > | > | > as possible. Preferably before 12-10-2003. We thank you >>>> for >>>> this | > in >>>> | > | > | > advance, and look forward to >>>> | > | > | > your message. >>>> | > | > | > >>>> | > | > | > Best regards, >>>> | > | > | > Xia / Bruno / Bert >>>> | > | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen >>>> | > | > | > Singel 301 >>>> | > | > | > 1012 WH Amsterdam >>>> | > | > | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >>>> | > | > | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >>>> | > | > | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>> | > | > | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>> | > | > | > >>>> | > | > | > >>>> | > | > | > >>>> | > | > | >>>> | > | > >>>> | > | >>>> | > >>>> | >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ams mailing list >>>> ams@eorbit.net >>>> http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot. >>> >>> Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- http://mayhem-chaos.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ams mailing list >>> ams@eorbit.net >>> http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ams mailing list >> ams@eorbit.net >> http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams >> > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > From luella@eorbit.net Mon Dec 22 15:13:27 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hBMNDRoG007459 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:13:27 -0800 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:13:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1061.10.200.2.164.1072134807.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1066.66.235.39.120.1072117186.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <3334.10.200.2.164.1071772761.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <370C317C-3190-11D8-B9B4-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> <1677.66.235.39.120.1071863006.squirrel@eorbit.net> <1795.10.200.2.164.1072070993.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1066.66.235.39.120.1072117186.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:13:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] [Fwd: Reservation 2003-11-22] From: "Luella Cruz" To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:13:27 -0000 With the earthquake today I didn't have time to check out how much that check was for since my branch was evacuated and we are now closed today. I'll you know how much that check was and go from there... ~lu mako@eorbit.net said: > I only money I ever received was the one check Luella gave to me. > > b > >> No, that check wasn't in equal parts...it had the little extra from >> Martin >> and I for the 5% increase. If I can remember correctly, we all owed you >> $15 each. I can let you know how much the check was tomorrow. If >> everyone >> already paid you the $15, we just need to pay for the conversions and >> the >> conversion fee that your credit card charged. >> ~lu >> >> mako@eorbit.net said: >>> Ok. I hate being a fucking accountant but here goes. The 1920 euros >>> has >>> been consistent on the reservation and the receipt that I have. After >>> going back through all the amsterdam mail I have I found one thing I >>> forgot about and I guess no else remembered either. A 5% charge for >>> using >>> the credit card in the first place. I'm in Seattle and I don't have >>> the >>> conversion rate in front of me but I seem to recall 1.20 something. So >>> here we go. Try to follow me. 1920euros * 5%= 96euros. 1920 + 96= >>> 2016 >>> euros. Then we had a 1% charge by mastercard international. 2016 * >>> 1%= >>> 20.16. 2016 + 20.16= 2036.16euros. The charge on my credit card was >>> $2486.02. $2486.02/2036.16= 1.2209 or 2036.16 * 1.20=$2443.39. >>> That's >>> the closest I can come up with at the moment. Luella, do you remember >>> the >>> amount of the check you gave me? I have a deposit of $2233 on 11/17, >>> but >>> I thought I made two separate deposits that day and I think BofA may >>> have >>> combined them on my online statement(the other deposit was less than >>> $20). >>> Was the check for equal amounts from all 8 people? If that amount is >>> correct with 8 equal amounts then $2486.02 - $2233= $253.02. >>> $253.02/8= >>> $31.63 per person except for Zannie and Dan whom I owe money to. >>> Zannie >>> $31.63 - $16= 15.63 Dan $31.63 - $5= $26.63. >>> >>> Let me know if that jives with everyone. I'm going to back to my >>> vacation >>> now. >>> >>> b >>> >>>> Eeeek. OK, Ben, can you please figure out what people owe you and then >>>> post that? Lets just get this done and taken care of. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, December 18, 2003, at 10:39 AM, Luella Cruz wrote: >>>> >>>>> Here's the "invoice". I guess the conversion rate was reallu sucky... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------- Original Message >>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>> Subject: Reservation 2003-11-22 >>>>> From: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >>>>> Date: Thu, December 18, 2003 6:21 am >>>>> To: "Luella Cruz" >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>> Dear Mrs. L. Cruz, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for your visit. We herewith send you the invoice for the >>>>> following reservation made by you: >>>>> >>>>> Name guest(s): Mrs. L. Cruz >>>>> Date of arrival: 22-11-2003 >>>>> Date of departure: 30-11-2003 >>>>> Number of nights: 8 >>>>> Type of rooms: 2 apartments for 4 persons each. >>>>> Price per room per night: EUR 120,00 >>>>> Total bill: EUR 1.920,00 >>>>> Contactpersons: Xia/Bruno/Bert >>>>> >>>>> We thank you for the payment that we already have received from you. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Xia / Bruno / Bert >>>>> Hotel Hoksbergen >>>>> Singel 301 >>>>> 1012 WH Amsterdam >>>>> Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >>>>> Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >>>>> Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>>> Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Luella Cruz" >>>>> To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >>>>> Cc: >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:50 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> | Dear Hotel Hoksbergen, >>>>> | >>>>> | I was wondering if you would be able to provide a copy of itemized >>>>> charges | for the referenced reservation. You can fax to >>>>> 1.805.528.0971 >>>>> (USA) or | email. >>>>> | >>>>> | Thank you, >>>>> | >>>>> | Luella Cruz >>>>> | >>>>> | Hotel Hoksbergen said: >>>>> | > Dear Luella Cruz. >>>>> | > Thank you for your fax and email. We herewith confirm the >>>>> following | >>>>>> reservation made by you: >>>>> | > Name guest(s): Mrs. L. Cruz >>>>> | > Date of arrival: 22. november 2003 >>>>> | > Check-in time: Please check in between 08.00-22.00 o'clock at >>>>> Hotel | >>>>>> Hoksbergen at 200 meter of our >>>>> | > Gasthuismolensteeg 10 apartment house. Apartments are ready >>>>> around >>>>> 14.00 | > o'clock. >>>>> | > We kindly request you to settle your bill at arrival. Ways of >>>>> payment >>>>> pls | > see below. >>>>> | > Date of departure: 30. november 2003 >>>>> | > Check-out time: 10.30 o'clock, but you can leave your luggage at >>>>> Hotel >>>>> | > Hoksbergen as long as you >>>>> | > wish >>>>> | > Number of nights: 8 >>>>> | > Type of apartment: 2 apartments for 4 persons with privat >>>>> | > bath/wc/television/fully fournished open >>>>> | > kitchen (self-catering, no phone) >>>>> | > Price per apt per night: EUR 120,00 >>>>> | > Total bill: EUR 960 x 2 = Euro 1920,00 >>>>> | > Guarantee: Creditcardnumber of Mr. Robert Kaye received by fax, >>>>> thank >>>>> you | > very much. >>>>> | > Contactpersons: Xia/Bruno/Bert >>>>> | > >>>>> | > 1 - Transportation to our hotel by public transport and by car, >>>>> and | >>>>>> approximate prices: >>>>> | > * From the airport 'Schiphol': (1) Taxi to hotel: EUR 35,00 >>>>> (FIXED >>>>> PRICE | > WITH TCA). (2) Airport >>>>> | > Hotel Shuttle from gate A7 to NH - City-Centre-Hotel - Spui, 200 >>>>> meters | > from us: EUR 10,00. (3) >>>>> | > Train to train-station: EUR 4,- p p >>>>> | > * From train-station to hotel: (1) Taxi EUR 7,50. (2) Tram 1, 2 >>>>> or >>>>> 5: >>>>> 3rd | > stop called 'Spui' EUR >>>>> | > 1,70 >>>>> | > 2 - The credit-card you have given just serves as a guarantee. >>>>> You >>>>> can >>>>> pay | > your bill also in other >>>>> | > ways. >>>>> | > If you wish to pay your bill with credit-card please note that we >>>>> will >>>>> | > have to charge you 5% extra >>>>> | > as administration-costs. We accept traveller's checks in EURO >>>>> without >>>>> | > extra costs. >>>>> | > 3 - Reservations are made following the Uniform Conditions of >>>>> the >>>>> | > >>>>> Federation Horeca. Which means >>>>> | > that if you unfortunately have to cancel the res, the costs are >>>>> 0% >>>>> of >>>>> the | > price of 1 night if have >>>>> | > to you cancel up to 2 weeks before arrival, 50% of 1 night if you >>>>> have >>>>> to | > cancel between 2 weeks and >>>>> | > 1 week before arrival, 80% of 1 night if you have to cancel >>>>> between 1 >>>>> week | > and 48 hours before >>>>> | > arrival, and 100% of 1 night after 48 hours before arrival. >>>>> | > >>>>> | > We thank you for this reservation and we look forward to >>>>> welcoming >>>>> you >>>>> on | > your date of arrival. >>>>> | > >>>>> | > Best regards, >>>>> | > Xia / Bruno / Bert >>>>> | > Hotel Hoksbergen >>>>> | > Singel 301 >>>>> | > 1012 WH Amsterdam >>>>> | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >>>>> | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >>>>> | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>>> | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>>> | > >>>>> | > >>>>> | > >>>>> | > ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> | > From: "Luella Cruz" >>>>> | > To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >>>>> | > Cc: ; >>>>> | > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 5:11 AM >>>>> | > Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 >>>>> | > >>>>> | > >>>>> | > | Dear Xia, Bert and Bruno: >>>>> | > | >>>>> | > | I apologize for the confusing emails. >>>>> | > | >>>>> | > | I viewed the pictures on the website and I am very satisfied >>>>> with >>>>> the | > | arrangement. I will be able to fax you a credit card and >>>>> expiry >>>>> date | > | immediately. Please confirm receipt of the fax via email. >>>>> Thank >>>>> you. | > | >>>>> | > | Sincerely, >>>>> | > | >>>>> | > | Luella Cruz >>>>> | > | >>>>> | > | Hotel Hoksbergen said: >>>>> | > | > Hello, >>>>> | > | > Thanks for your emails. Only we got serveral telling >>>>> different >>>>> things. | > | > could you please clarify what >>>>> | > | > you finally need? >>>>> | > | > You can see pictures of the apartments at our website. Number >>>>> 18 >>>>> and | > 19 >>>>> | > | > would be available. (3rd and >>>>> | > | > 4th floor) >>>>> | > | > Best regards, >>>>> | > | > Xia / Bruno / Bert >>>>> | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen >>>>> | > | > Singel 301 >>>>> | > | > 1012 WH Amsterdam >>>>> | > | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >>>>> | > | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >>>>> | > | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>>> | > | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>>> | > | > >>>>> | > | > >>>>> | > | > >>>>> | > | > ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> | > | > From: "Luella Cruz" >>>>> | > | > To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >>>>> | > | > Cc: ; >>>>> | > | > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 10:24 AM >>>>> | > | > Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 >>>>> | > | > >>>>> | > | > >>>>> | > | > | Dear Xia, Bruno or Bert: >>>>> | > | > | >>>>> | > | > | I am very interested in confirming my reservation for the 2 >>>>> 4-person | > | > | apartments, but I do request further information >>>>> regarding the 2 | > places >>>>> | > | > to >>>>> | > | > | sleep in the living room. Can you describe in more detail >>>>> the | >>>>>> sleeping >>>>> | > | > | area in the living room? Is the sleeping area equivalent to >>>>> a >>>>> twin | > or a >>>>> | > | > | double? Perhaps you have a picture that is accessible >>>>> online? | >>>>>> | > | >>>>> | > | > | Once we have further information regarding the sleeping >>>>> area >>>>> I >>>>> will | > be >>>>> | > | > | able to supply a credit card with expiry date within 24 >>>>> hours >>>>> via | > fax. >>>>> | > | > | >>>>> | > | > | Also, please reply to not only myself but to rob@eorbit.net >>>>> as >>>>> well. | > | > | >>>>> | > | > | Thank you. >>>>> | > | > | >>>>> | > | > | Sincerely, >>>>> | > | > | >>>>> | > | > | Luella Cruz >>>>> | > | > | >>>>> | > | > | >>>>> | > | > | Hotel Hoksbergen said: >>>>> | > | > | > Dear Mrs. Luella Cruz, >>>>> | > | > | > >>>>> | > | > | > Thank you for your email/fax through Bookings. >>>>> | > | > | > Requested 2 apartments for 4 persons each (8 persons: 4 >>>>> indiviuals | > and >>>>> | > | > 2 >>>>> | > | > | > couples) ARE available for >>>>> | > | > | > 8 nights starting 22-11-2003. >>>>> | > | > | > The price is EUR 120,00 per night including all taxes. | >>>>> > >>>>> | > >>>>> | > All our (self-catering) apartments have 1 big living-room with 2 >>>>> | >>>>> > | >>>>>> places to >>>>> | > | > | > sleep, 1 bed-room with 2 >>>>> | > | > | > more places to sleep (bedsheets provided), bath >>>>> (bath-towels | >>>>>> | > provided), >>>>> | > | > | > wc, fully fournished open >>>>> | > | > | > kitchen (including microwave). >>>>> | > | > | > Our apartment-house is situated right in the center of >>>>> beautiful | > | > Amsterdam >>>>> | > | > | > in a street between the >>>>> | > | > | > Singel and Herengracht close to the Dam square with the >>>>> Royal >>>>> | > Palace. >>>>> | > | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen is renting out the apartments, and that >>>>> is >>>>> the | > place >>>>> | > | > to >>>>> | > | > | > check in, pay the full >>>>> | > | > | > bill, pick up your key, and walk the last 200 meter to >>>>> your | >>>>>> apartment, >>>>> | > | > to >>>>> | > | > | > start your holiday in >>>>> | > | > | > Amsterdam. >>>>> | > | > | > We are at only 3 tram-stops from the train-station, and >>>>> have >>>>> also | > a >>>>> | > | > stop >>>>> | > | > | > of the direct bus from the >>>>> | > | > | > airport nearby. >>>>> | > | > | > All places of touristical interest are in walking >>>>> distance. | >>>>>> | > | > For any further information, please check our website. | > | >>>>>> > | >>>>>> For reservations, please send us a valid credit-card-number with | > >>>>>> | > >>>>> expiry >>>>> | > | > | > date as a guarantee as soon >>>>> | > | > | > as possible. Preferably before 12-10-2003. We thank you >>>>> for >>>>> this | > in >>>>> | > | > | > advance, and look forward to >>>>> | > | > | > your message. >>>>> | > | > | > >>>>> | > | > | > Best regards, >>>>> | > | > | > Xia / Bruno / Bert >>>>> | > | > | > Hotel Hoksbergen >>>>> | > | > | > Singel 301 >>>>> | > | > | > 1012 WH Amsterdam >>>>> | > | > | > Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >>>>> | > | > | > Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >>>>> | > | > | > Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>>> | > | > | > Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>>> | > | > | > >>>>> | > | > | > >>>>> | > | > | > >>>>> | > | > | >>>>> | > | > >>>>> | > | >>>>> | > >>>>> | >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> ams mailing list >>>>> ams@eorbit.net >>>>> http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its >>>> idiot. >>>> >>>> Robert Kaye -- rob@eorbit.net -- >>>> http://mayhem-chaos.net >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ams mailing list >>>> ams@eorbit.net >>>> http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ams mailing list >>> ams@eorbit.net >>> http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ams mailing list >> ams@eorbit.net >> http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams >> > > _______________________________________________ > ams mailing list > ams@eorbit.net > http://www.eorbit.net/mailman/listinfo/ams > From luella@eorbit.net Tue Dec 30 19:59:57 2003 Received: from mail.eorbit.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by boojiboy.eorbit.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id hBV3xuoG002000 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:59:56 -0800 Received: from 10.200.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user luella) by mail.eorbit.net with HTTP; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:59:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3518.10.200.2.164.1072843196.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> In-Reply-To: <1061.10.200.2.164.1072134807.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> References: <3334.10.200.2.164.1071772761.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <370C317C-3190-11D8-B9B4-0003933ECA96@eorbit.net> <1677.66.235.39.120.1071863006.squirrel@eorbit.net> <1795.10.200.2.164.1072070993.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1066.66.235.39.120.1072117186.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> <1061.10.200.2.164.1072134807.squirrel@mail.eorbit.net> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:59:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [ams] [Fwd: Reservation 2003-11-22] From: "Luella Cruz" To: "Amsterdam travel plans list" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-BeenThere: ams@eorbit.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Id: Amsterdam travel plans list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 03:59:58 -0000 OK, so here's the deal, everyone wrote me a check for $275 each, for a total of 2200. The check that I wrote to Ben was $2233. $30 of it was for Martin and I since we all had to pay Ben $15 extra for the 5% credit card processing fee. Where the extra $3 came from, I don't know, maybe some people rounded up for the conversion. So for those of you that didn't pay Ben %15 extra, then you need to pay him $15 plus $2.52 ($17.52 total) for his credit card's 1% international charge thing. And $16 to Zannie if you haven't already... ~lu Luella Cruz said: > With the earthquake today I didn't have time to check out how much that > check was for since my branch was evacuated and we are now closed today. > I'll you know how much that check was and go from there... > > ~lu > > mako@eorbit.net said: >> I only money I ever received was the one check Luella gave to me. >> >> b >> >>> No, that check wasn't in equal parts...it had the little extra from >>> Martin >>> and I for the 5% increase. If I can remember correctly, we all owed you >>> $15 each. I can let you know how much the check was tomorrow. If >>> everyone >>> already paid you the $15, we just need to pay for the conversions and >>> the >>> conversion fee that your credit card charged. >>> ~lu >>> >>> mako@eorbit.net said: >>>> Ok. I hate being a fucking accountant but here goes. The 1920 euros >>>> has >>>> been consistent on the reservation and the receipt that I have. After >>>> going back through all the amsterdam mail I have I found one thing I >>>> forgot about and I guess no else remembered either. A 5% charge for >>>> using >>>> the credit card in the first place. I'm in Seattle and I don't have >>>> the >>>> conversion rate in front of me but I seem to recall 1.20 something. >>>> So >>>> here we go. Try to follow me. 1920euros * 5%= 96euros. 1920 + 96= >>>> 2016 >>>> euros. Then we had a 1% charge by mastercard international. 2016 * >>>> 1%= >>>> 20.16. 2016 + 20.16= 2036.16euros. The charge on my credit card was >>>> $2486.02. $2486.02/2036.16= 1.2209 or 2036.16 * 1.20=$2443.39. >>>> That's >>>> the closest I can come up with at the moment. Luella, do you remember >>>> the >>>> amount of the check you gave me? I have a deposit of $2233 on 11/17, >>>> but >>>> I thought I made two separate deposits that day and I think BofA may >>>> have >>>> combined them on my online statement(the other deposit was less than >>>> $20). >>>> Was the check for equal amounts from all 8 people? If that amount is >>>> correct with 8 equal amounts then $2486.02 - $2233= $253.02. >>>> $253.02/8= >>>> $31.63 per person except for Zannie and Dan whom I owe money to. >>>> Zannie >>>> $31.63 - $16= 15.63 Dan $31.63 - $5= $26.63. >>>> >>>> Let me know if that jives with everyone. I'm going to back to my >>>> vacation >>>> now. >>>> >>>> b >>>> >>>>> Eeeek. OK, Ben, can you please figure out what people owe you and >>>>> then >>>>> post that? Lets just get this done and taken care of. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, December 18, 2003, at 10:39 AM, Luella Cruz wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Here's the "invoice". I guess the conversion rate was reallu >>>>>> sucky... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------- Original Message >>>>>> ---------------------------- >>>>>> Subject: Reservation 2003-11-22 >>>>>> From: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >>>>>> Date: Thu, December 18, 2003 6:21 am >>>>>> To: "Luella Cruz" >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> --- >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Mrs. L. Cruz, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your visit. We herewith send you the invoice for the >>>>>> following reservation made by you: >>>>>> >>>>>> Name guest(s): Mrs. L. Cruz >>>>>> Date of arrival: 22-11-2003 >>>>>> Date of departure: 30-11-2003 >>>>>> Number of nights: 8 >>>>>> Type of rooms: 2 apartments for 4 persons each. >>>>>> Price per room per night: EUR 120,00 >>>>>> Total bill: EUR 1.920,00 >>>>>> Contactpersons: Xia/Bruno/Bert >>>>>> >>>>>> We thank you for the payment that we already have received from you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Xia / Bruno / Bert >>>>>> Hotel Hoksbergen >>>>>> Singel 301 >>>>>> 1012 WH Amsterdam >>>>>> Tel: ++.31.20.6266043 >>>>>> Fax: ++.31.20.6383479 >>>>>> Email: info@hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>>>> Internet: www.hotelhoksbergen.nl >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Luella Cruz" >>>>>> To: "Hotel Hoksbergen" >>>>>> Cc: >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:50 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Reservation 2003-11-22 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> | Dear Hotel Hoksbergen, >>>>>> | >>>>>> | I was wondering if you would be able to provide a copy of itemized >>>>>> charges | for the referenced reservation. You can fax to >>>>>> 1.805.528.0971 >>>>>> (USA) or | email. >>>>>> | >>>>>> | Thank you, >>>>>> | >>>>>> | Luella Cruz >>>>>> | >>>>>> | Hotel Hoksbergen said: >>>>>> | > Dear Luella Cruz. >>>>>> | > Thank you for your fax and email. We herewith confirm the >>>>>> following | >>>>>>> reservation made by you: >>>>>> | > Name guest(s): Mrs. L. Cruz >>>>>> | > Date of arrival: 22. november 2003 >>>>>> | > Check-in time: Please check in between 08.00-22.00 o'clock at >>>>>> Hotel | >>>>>>> Hoksbergen at 200 meter of our >>>>>> | > Gasthuismolensteeg 10 apartment house. Apartments are ready >>>>>> around >>>>>> 14.00 | > o'clock. >>>>>> | > We kindly request you to settle your bill at arrival. Ways of >>>>>> payment >>>>>> pls | > see below. >>>>>> | > Date of departure: 30. november 2003 >>>>>> | > Check-out time: 10.30 o'clock, but you can leave your luggage at >>>>>> Hotel >>>>>> | > Hoksbergen as long as you >>>>>> | > wish >>>>>> | > Number of nights: 8 >>>>>> | > Type of apartment: 2 apartments for 4 persons with privat >>>>>> | > bath/wc/television/fully fournished open >>>>>> | > kitchen (self-catering, no phone) >>>>>> | > Price per apt per night: EUR 120,00 >>>>>> | > Total bill: EUR 960 x 2 = Euro 1920,00 >>>>>> | > Guarantee: Creditcardnumber of Mr. Robert Kaye received by fax, >>>>>> thank >>>>>> you | > very much. >>>>>> | > Contactpersons: Xia/Bruno/Bert >>>>>> | > >>>>>> | > 1 - Transportation to our hotel by public transport and by car, >>>>>> and | >>>>>>> approximate prices: >>>>>> | > * From the airport 'Schiphol': (1) Taxi to hotel: EUR 35,00 >>>>>> (FIXED >>>>>> PRICE | > WITH TCA). (2) Airport >>>>>> | > Hotel Shuttle from gate A7 to NH - City-Centre-Hotel - Spui, >>>>>> 200 >>>>>> meters | > from us: EUR 10,00. (3) >>>>>> | > Train to train-station: EUR 4,- p p >>>>>> | > * From train-station to hotel: (1) Taxi EUR 7,50. (2) Tram 1, 2 >>>>>> or >>>>>> 5: >>>>>> 3rd | > stop called 'Spui' EUR >>>>>> | > 1,70 >>>>>> | > 2 - The credit-card you have given just serves as a guarantee. >>>>>> You >>>>>> can >>>>>> pay | > your bill also in other >>>>>> | > ways. >>>>>> | > If you wish to pay your bill with credit-card please note that >>>>>> we >>>>>> will >>>>>> | > have to charge you 5% extra >>>>>> | > as administration-costs. We accept traveller's checks in EURO >>>>>> without >>>>>> | > extra costs. >>>>>> | > 3 - Reservations are made following the Uniform Conditions of >>>>>> the >>>>>> | > >>>>>> Federation Horeca. Which means >>>>>> | > that if you unfortunately have to cancel the res, the costs are >>>>>> 0% >>>>>> of >>>>>> the | > price of 1 night if have >>>>>> | > to you cancel up to 2 weeks before arrival, 50% of 1 night if >>>>>> you >>>>>> have >>>>>> to | > cancel between 2 weeks and >>>>>> | > 1 week before arrival, 80% of 1 night if you have to cancel >>>>>> between 1 >>>>>> week | > and 48 hours before >>>>>> | > arrival, and 100% of 1 night after 48 hours before arrival. >>>>>> | > >>>>>> | > We thank you for this reservation and we look forward to >>>>>> welcoming >>>>>> you